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The future of web development is AI. Get on or get left behind. (alex.party)

submitted 2 days ago by exu@feditown.com to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're not using Notepad, I don't even know what to tell you.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

JEdit 4 life!

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

10/10. No notes.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It pains me so much when I see my colleagues pay OpenAI to do programming assignments.. they see it is faster to ask gpt, than learn it properly. Sadly, I can say nothing to them, or I would risk worsening relations with them.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm glad they do. This is going to generate so much work opportunities to undo their messes.

[–] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Except that they are research students in PhD course, it would exacerbate code messiness in research paper codebases.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

Or open source projects..

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 11 points 2 days ago

You should probably click the link

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

I love this

[–] josefo@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago

I left 10 years ago, web development is shit.

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago

I don't remember progressive web apps having anywhere near the level of fanfare as the other things on this list, and as someone that has built several pwas I feel their usefulness is undervalued.

More apps in the app store should be pwas instead.

Otherwise this list is great and I love it.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I will use AI to prompt AI to code for me, free money 🤑

[+] entwine413@lemm.ee -7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I can see this partly being true in that it'll be part of a dev's toolkit. The devs at my previous job loved using it to do busy work coding.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"busy work coding" is that what you do when you try to look like you're working (like a real dev)?

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Real world development isn't creating exciting apps all the time, it's writing the same exact boring convention based code sticking to an established pattern.

It can be really boring and unchallenging to create your millionth respiratory, or you can prompt your ide to create a new repo and with one sentence it will create stub out 10 minutes worth of tedious prep work. It makes programming fun again.

In one prompt, it can look at my finished code and stub out half decent documentation that otherwise wouldn't have been completed at. It does hallucinate sometimes, or it completely misunderstands the code, so you have to correct a few sentences, but the brain drain of coming to with the sentence structure to write useful documentation is completely lifted, and the code is now well documented.

AI programming is more than just vibe coding, and it's way more useful than everyone here insists it's not.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Feels like you should have automated it if you do it over and over.

[–] dermanus@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

We're using it for closing security flaws identified by another tool. It's boring, unchallenging work that is nonetheless still important. It's also repetitive and uncreative enough that I'm comfortable having a machine do it.

There's still human review but when it's stuff like "your error messages should escape variables" or "write a longer function name" having a tool that can do most of the grunt work is valuable.

[–] adrian@50501.chat 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I agree that it will continue to be a useful tool. I've gotten a similar productivity boost using AI auto-complete as I did from regular auto-complete. It's also pretty good at identifiying potential uses with code, again, a similar productivity boost as a good linter. The chatbot does make a good sounding board, especially when you don't remember the name of the concept you are trying to implement or need to pro-con two solutions and you can't find articles about it.

But all these claims of 10x improvements in development speed are horse shit. Yeah, you might be able to shit out a 5-10,000 LOC tutorial app in an hour or two with prompt engineering, but try implementing a feature in a 100,000 LOC codebase and it promptly shits the bed: hallucinating internal frameworks, microservices, ignoring internal practices, writing straight up non-functional code, etc. I'd you spend enough time prompting it, you can eventually massage the solution you need out of it; problem is, it took longer to do that than writing the damn thing yourself.

[–] TheSealStartedIt@feddit.org -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh god the hate in this sub. It is definitely another tool for a dev to use. Like autocomplete or a lot of other stuff a good IDE does to help you. If you don't want to use it, fine. Perhaps you're such a pro that you don't need anything but a text editor. If you're not, and you're ignoring it for whatever petty reasons, you'll probably fall behind all the devs who learned how to use it to get more productive (or, in developer terms, lazier)

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 2 days ago

Agreed. Like it or not, old school auto complete was the same thing, just not as advanced. That being said, comment op probably didn't click the link.

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