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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 7 minutes ago

Destruction of nature & unwise use of resources, or even just multiplying to a point where even the most prudent resource management & minimal environmental impact per capita is the absolute goal could still destiny biodiversity.

This has to do with economical tendencies of living beings, not a particular socioeconomic system.
(Yes, capitalism is accelerating the process by taking away freedoms from the masses - but even a commune can decide to chop up the whole forest for wood. World is a fuck.)

"Virus" might not be the best word for it tho (infestation maybe? Fits the capita growth statistics), but successful animals that oversaturate their environment (eg lots of food, no predators, longevity after procreation, tech) cause biodiversity loss (anything from local collapse to a global extinction event with cofactors like climate change or air structure change - what is novel with humans is how rapidly we are developing in our last 0.5% of existence, and how rapid the global impact we case is, it won't take us 10s of thousands of years, we can speedrun in less than a millennia).

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 hours ago

Could dumb shit like this be in lemmy.ml exclusively?

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

If humans weren't greedy dicks then capitalism or any other form of government would work perfectly. You can't force humans to not be greedy dicks. No matter what system is being instituted it is susceptible to greedy dicks.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 5 minutes ago (1 children)

capitalism or any other form of government

But capitalism isn't a form of government tho.
Nor is communism of even feudalism.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Oops you're right I meant economic system

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 29 minutes ago

Our entire schtick is co operation, it's literally why we're the dominant life form

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

Yes we can, via laws. You have no clue about what unrestricted greed does to people especially, on the recieving end

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[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Your generalization is false

The majority of humanity are not greedy or obsessed with profit

The problem is that the few ridiculously greedy sociopaths that do arise per-capita are just so FUCKDAMN good at amassing power and wealth that we assume it's the natural lot of all people

So we just test and dispose of sociopaths at birth, problem solved. We already have the tests for it.

Don't look at me like that

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

and thankfully those sociopaths have enough money to get rid of idiots with those ideas that get too close to power.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, which is why we need to use nontraditional power tactics like leveraging drones and cyber attacks as well as flashmob tactics and social media control

Money buys you a private army but not loyalty, we need to start early and get idealists positioned in those private armies

Make inroads with the children of billionaires tired of their parents' excesses, this was a valuable vector during the French Revolution that almost no one talks about

More than anything we need to accept the fact that no amount of signs or shouts are going to stop the ultra wealthy from destroying everything for more imaginary numbers in an already unspendable bank account

[–] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

It's still objectively eugenics to target people based on genetic conditions, especially if the genetic condition has a not wholly undesirable result.

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We can regulate greedy dick behaviour

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Madame Guillotine can help with that

[–] RockBottom@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

There are human societies were greed is not accepted.

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 6 points 9 hours ago

I welcome you to inform us of this utopia you speak of.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Which ones? Which ones don't damage their land or steal children from enemies or rape or steal? Please don't try to say any indigenous tribes because they are all guilty of one or more these.

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[–] andybytes@programming.dev 4 points 9 hours ago

Sometimes I get frustrated with people and I think this. But then I quickly snap my mindset out of this because I know really what's the problem. Capitalism.

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