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[–] HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

just shove a 4090 and a forklift battery in there, ez

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But then you'd need to get forklift certified to operate the thing

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] onion@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Damn fella, save some ussy for the rest of us!

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good thing. We all know valve can't count to 3, so the 2 will be the last one

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wouldn't it be Steam Deck 2 Episode 2?

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steam deck hello this is gabe newel you just purchased a steam deck version more than 2 and less than 4 please email me on GabeN@valvesoftware.com to talk about your game purchases on the steam deck.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Steam Deck 2 rc 2

[–] Dalek_Thal@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Cool, does this mean they'll actually fucking sell the thing in Australia, or is it just forever going to be dodgy resellers?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The technology to ship this to Australia just doesn't exist yet.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

They even need a upside down type c cable

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 17 points 1 year ago

🎵dream on🎵dream on🎵dream on🎵dream on🎵

[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 14 points 1 year ago

Welcome to the south American experience

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

Imagine Valve going the Apple route: "Fuck it, we will design our own hardware to suit our needs" and making hardware tailored to linux.

Edit: what about qualcomm's new ARM: Snapdragon X Elite?

[–] gornius@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think ARM is their end goal, it's really the only option for a handheld console, as today ARM is the only way you'll get enough performance/power rate to make it both good on battery with good enough performance.

Win-win for everyone if they invest in an open source x86 to ARM project, similar like they did with Wine.

[–] kadu@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The Switch is more than proof enough that pretty much any modern game engine can compile to an ARM target with zero issues (though Nvidia's low level APIs help, not sure about Qualcomm).

But there's zero chance older PC games would ever be updated, and by older I don't mean ancient, some AAA studios stop issuing updates in about one year after release.

So it all comes down to being able to emulate X86 on ARM... The best example we have is Apple, and games run but with a massive performance hit. Microsoft's implementation is borderline unusable. I'm not sure what to expect from Valve.

[–] Dani551@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Checkout Box86/64 and Fex-Emu. They both do x86 translation/emulation on ARM Linux and the results are wayy better than any reasonable expectations I had going in.

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Every year they are more likely to go RISC-V.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Nah ARM is barely more efficient than X86. As soon as AMD went TSMC 3nm they got almost similar power efficiency. As the Apple M chips.

Apples "magic sauce" is just being the first one on the new TSMC nodes.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Back then, we really couldn't engage with a display manufacturer to do exactly what we were after because they didn't really understand the product category, or who would be buying the screen, or why it would matter. Now that picture has changed and we're able to get custom work done.

Why would literally any of those questions be of concern to the screen manufacturer? And I don't understand, did Valve begin work on this in 1918? How could anyone not understand the product category?

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Display manufacturers may understand what Valve might want in a screen, but they might not understand how many units of a screen of such a specification they would be able to sell — is it going to be a custom job for just a few thousand of valve’s experimental console (which may have different degrees of success), or is it going to be something that they can sell to more people and a wider audience.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Understanding a product and having practical knowledge about building a speciality part are different ball games

[–] SamXavia@kbin.run 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I've seen of the Steam Deck there's not far that it can go to improve as of the moment but in the next 10 years there's going to be needing another one as newer games like GTA 6 and stuff come around and eventually be on PC the tech is going to really show it's age.

[–] clayh@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Valve’s hardware strategy up to this point has been to push into new markets via hardware innovation. So I’m very skeptical that the hypothetical successor to the deck is a more powerful version of the deck. They’ll let other hardware manufacturers push those limits and reap the benefits via software sales. The deck was exceptionally successful in that regard, it’s literally opened an entire market segment.

Whatever the “Deck 2” comes to be, I expect it will be poised to capture a different market segment, possibly AR/VR or even modular handheld hardware (totally unfounded speculation), but I sincerely doubt they have much interest in releasing a more powerful version of the same thing every few years.

Who knows, though. Valve’s gonna valve and the only thing they do with any consistency is change things up.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 20 points 1 year ago

I disagree. I feel more like Steam has been focusing on being able to decouple from Windows. The hardware it has developed was paired with other initiatives to move beyond the Windows desktop. They are now at a point where they've basically created their own Switch that can run without Windows.

I wouldn't be surprised if Steam finally makes consumer Linux on the desktop a thing.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Why spend all those years and all that capital/manpower on R&D for a handheld that is widely touted as a success only to never use any of those lessons ever again? I can't imagine they're just going to one-and-done the Steamdeck. Seems like a massive waste to me.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe steamdeck 2 will be an arm processor

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not unless they've got better x64->ARM translation than Apple does right now.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Powerglove style controllers with a holographic screen.

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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wonder if the technology they're waiting for is a more powerful arm processor?

[–] datendefekt@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Highly doubt it, because pretty much all games are compiled for x86, and would require dynamic recompilation, which I'm turn costs performance.

Or... they could perform the recompilation beforehand just like the precompiled shaders. Hmmm.. that would make it pretty viable!

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[–] regbin_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does Steam Deck support VRR on its built-in display?

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