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[–] sovietsnake@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Again and again, "it may be dangerous to be the US's enemy, but to be the US's ally is fatal".

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And yet people just keep falling in the same trap.

[–] dRLY@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The US is a perfect example of an abusive relationship where the abuser is really good at using emotions against the abused. Very good at love bombing and using the "this time I have changed" line and repeating the whole thing. While also somehow being seen as some kind of "respectable wealthy person" that makes big donations to "great causes" (of course is also a large part of why those causes are even needed). Eventually enough nations will be abused and will form groups to share their stories and support. And maybe even no one will want to "date" them, which will of course lead to the US claiming to be a "victim of cancellation" or whatever. But since the US and its victims are nations and not just individuals, shit is much worse and completely fucks/ruins/ends many more million people the longer it goes.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

It's all that but also there are no cops, and the US can either "protect" you from others or it can destroy you and no one will lift a finger to help out of fear of retaliation.

[–] darkcalling@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 10 months ago

Please, Ukrainian intelligence couldn't hijack a turnip cart without CIA training, approval, equipment, and live intelligence assistance via reconnaissance and delivery assets. More limited hang-out falsehoods.

Seymour Hersh already told us NATO themselves did it. While I'm sure Ukrainian intelligence had some bit part such as perhaps being in the command room, they had neither the navy, training, equipment or requisite assets to conduct such a thing. US blew up it up whether it was fucking Navy Seals, Danish operatives, or some Ukrainians specially trained for the task. They trained for it, equipped it, provided delivery mechanism to the site, provided over-watch, and gave the green-light. Thus it was a US/nordic-NATO attack on energy infrastructure of another NATO member (Germany).

Which is why they're so desperate to seed this false story that it was Ukraine so when Ukraine falls and loses (something coming closer every day), all the loose ends are neatly wrapped up and anyone who suggests a need for accounting and financial compensation from the US for this they just point to planted fakes like this and say it was those Ukrainians and they did it without approval or went too far or whatever. And anyone who persists anyways will be called a Russian disinfo spreader, censored from the internet with the social media providers pointing to these stories by what any honest person knows is the CIA's official press and disinfo paper.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're just gonna go with the whole dipshits on a yacht pulled off a near statistical impossibility forever huh? The cia is so fucking bad at lying sometimes.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago

lol right, everybody with a couple of brain cells to bang together knows who did this, but they just put out this absurd story and we're all supposed to pretend it makes sense

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago

They finally admit that Ukraine was involved. Wow.

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not related to the article per say, but it would be nice to have a bot post un-paywalled versions of articles in the comments, no?