this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2023
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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Windows is doing stuff behind that splash screen too though

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And arch does the exact same thing as Ubuntu :/ not sure what they are trying to say with this one.

[–] RockyBass@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah idk, many distros show the classic startup/shutdow process

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is. Just never says what’s hung.

Frankly It’s more like

Windows - “shut down please. No it’s fine, I’ll wait. Indefinately is fine”

Linux “ shut down please. You have 30 seconds or I’ll shut you down myself”

[–] bali10050@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

If my pc doesn't shut down when I click on the shutdown button, I just pull it out of the wall or switch off the psu depending on my mood. At this point I think it's just affraid of me

[–] mortrek@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're forgetting the 10 minutes of mandatory Windows updates.

[–] u202307011927@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] YonatanAvhar@programming.dev 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A stop job is running for Simple Desktop Display Manager

[–] dorumon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I think you can configure systemd to force shutdown such things in like 2 seconds which is the only way I can shut down my Thinkpad running Debian 12.

[–] majlitech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember going from MS-DOS to Windows and being really annoyed that I couldn't see the loading log.

Same with Android phones in the beginning when they were still the scrappy underdog. I wanted to see machinery at work!

[–] janus2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

I would rather watch console output I don't understand scrolling by too fast to read than some dumb spinning dots >:[

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait you guys don't sudo echo o > /proc/sysrq-trigger?

[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think you'd have to do echo o | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger, otherwise sudo only works for the echo, not the write.

[–] outdated_belated@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit the reason for tee never really clicked until I saw this post. I’d used it in pasted commands, but it had always seemed superfluous.

[–] clumsyninza@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] SteveTech@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

It writes to a file like >, and echos it back at the same time; in this case the latter isn't needed (we're just using it to write with sudo), but it's good to know.

[–] GuyNoIRQ@infosec.pub 8 points 1 year ago

echo c | sudo tee /proc/sysrq-trigger 🫣

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Ah I guess I just use sudo bash a lot 😅

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't get it, shutting down looks like the Ubuntu one to me.

[–] sorrowl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There's a kernel option to disable the text and it's on by default on Arch, but not on Ubuntu.

Edit: It seems that the kernel parameter is not on by default. I've always used GRUB and the text hasn't appeared for me until I've removed the quiet option in the GRUB config file so I thought it was on by default. It might be on by default with GRUB or I'm remembering wrong.

[–] Tranus@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure that's right. I just installed arch a few days ago, and I see that text during startup and shutdown. I didn't change any kernel options. Also, I've never seen that stuff with ubuntu, just a big ubuntu logo.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

it's on by default on Arch

I don't think there is a default in Arch. You have to choose your own bootloader, and the documentation just lays out the options on what kernel parameters to pass. For systemd-boot, the Arch documentation gives example configurations that don't include the "quiet" parameter.

[–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

It's not on by default.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I get stuck on a black screen about every 10 or so reboots/shutdowns

[–] ninsix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Correction: first image: Windows update second image: Arch Linux third image: Void Linux