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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He will not get my vote in the primary (which Biden will likely win), but I'm still voting for him in the General, because if he loses, I know for certain I will not be better off when Republicans inevitably enact the policies entailed in Project 2025.

ETA: Unless by some miracle he loses the primary, in which case, I will be voting for the not-fascist.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Much appreciated. I've started taking some time to read over Project 2025. It's truly terrifying, not just for the US but for the world.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funniest part of that chart is the highest metric is Democrats saying "No change."

I guess in their mind, Biden's promise of "nothing will fundamentally change" was kept!

[–] Tenbot@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Honestly with the way the US stands today, "no fundamental change" is probably the best we could hope for. Of course, I think things are generally worse now than when he was elected, but I don't blame him for the problems of crony capitalism, a completely dysfuncional congress, a Supreme Court beholden to private donors, and a national constituency that seems to shed brain cells like trees shed leaves in autumn.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you genuinely believe that the world cannot get better? You actually unironically fell for the "good things can't happen" meme? Yikers

[–] Tenbot@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You've wilfully misread the comment, but I'm not going to quibble with you about it.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly with the way the US stands today, "no fundamental change" is probably the best we could hope for

How does this mean anything other than "good things aren't possible"

[–] Tenbot@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Because critiquing a system as currently failing doesn't translate to, "good things aren't possible," or as you said earlier, "things can't get better," except by hyperbolic inference. You're welcome to disagree with my points and offer your own thoughts on the issues, and that would certainly be more interesting than trying to critique me as a person based on four sentences on Lemmy.

[–] Buchenstr@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't worry guys, we just need 5 more years of ~~genocide joe~~ Joey our friendly uncle sam, hopefully he'll listen to us instead of voting off crime bills! Or voting to send weapons to bomb & kill, Or breaking up railway strikes, or passing corporate lobbyist laws in his home state Delaware, or giving money to the MIC, or giving more subsidies to corporations, or removing all the welfare benefits after covid-19.

You know what? This gag is unfunny, fuck joe biden supporters, you middle class shits would rather have a concentration camp in your garden rather than socialist reforms

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

If you have a plan to unite the Left, which includes many demographics of varied ideologies (not just socialists), I'm sure the political strategists would love to hear it. However, you will lose to the tribalistically-united Right every time if you act like your ideas are the only valid ones worth hearing.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, they'd make their mayors put the concentration camps in the trenches 'cause they can't have ANYTHING fuckin up the sanctity of their backyards. Source? All that anti-homeless architecture horseshit they glaze over

[–] asg101@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

In a collapsing country on a planet being fed into the ovens by the ruling class, this is actually a more optimistic poll result than I would expect. Anyone other than the .01% feeling they are "better off" is surprising.

Currently I'm worse off because of all the construction on numerous infrastructure projects in my city. But I'll be much better off when they're done. Unfortunately, it will take some time to realize the gains of some of the larger bills that were passed.

[–] Alexc@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cannot access the article, but the headline sounds like it’s a financial outcome. I find that to be a highly dubious premise. Surely there is more to life than “having more money”?

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not in capitalist society there's not; and you're smoking crack if you try to tell me there is in today's labor conditions. As it is, that old racist motherfucker still owes me about 600 bucks.

[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're barely scraping by, having less money can significantly affect quality of life, or at least percieved quality of life.

[–] Alexc@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

It’s like the old quote (I’ll completely fuck up I am sure) but nobody appreciates just how expensive it is to be poor.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't mind not being better off when the alternative is fascism. I'd prefer to be better off, but I'll take status quo.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congrats, you have chosen fascism.

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So all the choices are fascism and the only way to win is not to play? Yeah, no thanks, I'll keep voting, thank you very much, and I will keep voting AGAINST the fascists, even when the alternative is mediocrity.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Keep voting. Just don't vote for the slow fascist, nor the fast fascist. It's easy and literally the least you can do.