this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2023
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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I just saw the person yesterday talking about how they needed to open Windows Clock and they had to wait to install an update. What the hell is Microsoft doing now? Just not testing anything?

[–] Pantrygheist@programming.dev 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No need to keep old and likely obsolete calculator logic, just run that through chatgpt! - some ms product manager

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely - and as a dev I can say I've been in those conversations. The hype is exactly the same as blockchain (and I know it's different to us, our hype is more real because we know what the tech can actually do).

But god do I hate business MBAs all excited about tech they know nothing about. I remember when I was working at $megacorp being forced to listen to a meeting hosted by an MBA about how blockchain was going to revolutionize our business. Powerpoint was about 80% buzzwords with graphs that were obviously just made up. At the end of course the suits were all shaking hands and really proud, and us devs were all like "literally how or why would we put blockchain in our system?"

At least AI has some promise, but abso-fuckin-lutely some idiot PM decided to make it into the calculator. We just know it's a probability engine, so that yes this string of characters should probably give a coherent answer, but I'm just already seeing these stupid business people trying to shoe-horn in AI everywhere. Hell I'm seeing Jr devs suggesting it for things like "What if we used it to solve the shortest distance" type problems - problems we already have optimized solutions for. Let's use it, but goddamn can we please get off the hype wagon and focus on where it could be actually useful?

Wow okay that was way more than I meant to write, but it was cathartic. Thank you for letting me vent that. I'm... a bit annoyed with my work right now.

[–] Pantrygheist@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

No worries, it was a great read!

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean they did a calculation in the start menu search.... Like the normal thing is that it wouldn't even be a thing and simply not work or not return anything, but since it has this internet search feature this happened.

Like the normal thing would have been to open the calculator.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I am sorry I am confused with your comment.

"They needed to open Windows Clock"

Ughm ok...and they did it? Or not idk?

"and they had to wait to install an update"

Uhm ok I guess they had work or something and wanted to update later? Idk?

These two things have some relation I am not seeing?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh just in Windows 11 the clock is technically an app. And that app needed an update. The clock app in windows needed an update that hey had to wait for Windows Updates to do before they could use it.

To me, that's crazy that an app as simple as "clock" requires an update to function.

[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Ok. I guess as some else pointed out you talking about the app with timers and all that, the clock down below works always and although it might get updated it is visible always.

Anyway yeah it's not nice, I never use that app so I didn't experience it but yeah I feel it should work even if there is an update it should allow to do it later.

[–] Cyno@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] XTornado@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah I got it. Tbh I have never used it my life.

I think the main issue here specially is that it has it's own updater. And it updates when starting the app... as I got the same screen just now running it on the first time.

Not a good design for this kind of app that could work without the update.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

It was the timer app, wanting to set a timer for food cooking, and the timer wouldn't operate without updating first.

[–] elint@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wait, you literally have a calculator pre-installed on your computer, yet you are trying to use a search engine to do math? Just because some search engines happens to handle some basic arithmetic functions doesn't mean all search engines necessarily support the same features.

This is why helpdesks get paid the big bucks.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Maybe they're used to Linux (maybe Mac) where you typically can just write it in the start menu thing and it uses the calc app to solve it. No need to separately open it.

[–] rony4102@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

That's gravity++