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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jefferson was a huge piece of shit who knew how to write well.

James Hubbard was an enslaved worker in [Jefferson's] nailery who ran away on two occasions. The first time Jefferson did not have him whipped, but on the second Jefferson reportedly ordered him severely flogged. Hubbard was likely sold after spending time in jail. Stanton says children suffered physical violence. When a 17-year-old James was sick, one overseer reportedly whipped him "three times in one day". Violence was commonplace on plantations, including Jefferson's. Henry Wiencek cited within a Smithsonian Magazine article several reports of Jefferson ordering the whipping or selling of slaves as punishments for misbehavior (for example, 10-year old boys being late for work) or escape.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He also "courted" a 14 year old slave girl he owned, who he married when she was 16... He was in his 40s.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 34 points 2 months ago

He didn't marry her, that wouldn't have even been legal in their lifetimes. But otherwise yes.

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 22 points 2 months ago

This makes sense when you consider that Jefferson did not consider slaves "men". They were objects to people like him.

[–] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

They called them boys, not men

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well they counted slaves as cattle back then. I recall they compromised at 3/5 of person.

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Specifically for the sake of giving southern states a higher population count and therefore more seats in the House of Representatives.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Black lives dont matter unless it benefits us.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

The US is an amoral shithole and always has been.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, the enslaving states actually wanted to count them as full people, for that purpose. 3/5 was a compromise with the free states. It really shows the power of motivated reasoning.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'ma compel him to include women in the sequel.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I'm reporting you for treason against ~~big brother~~ founding father!

Freedom is slavery and slavery is freedom double plus good!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

"Thomas the Jefferson" is such a Sonic-esque name...