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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 50 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jefferson was a huge piece of shit who knew how to write well.

James Hubbard was an enslaved worker in [Jefferson's] nailery who ran away on two occasions. The first time Jefferson did not have him whipped, but on the second Jefferson reportedly ordered him severely flogged. Hubbard was likely sold after spending time in jail. Stanton says children suffered physical violence. When a 17-year-old James was sick, one overseer reportedly whipped him "three times in one day". Violence was commonplace on plantations, including Jefferson's. Henry Wiencek cited within a Smithsonian Magazine article several reports of Jefferson ordering the whipping or selling of slaves as punishments for misbehavior (for example, 10-year old boys being late for work) or escape.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

He also "courted" a 14 year old slave girl he owned, who he married when she was 16... He was in his 40s.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 34 points 1 month ago

He didn't marry her, that wouldn't have even been legal in their lifetimes. But otherwise yes.

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 22 points 1 month ago

This makes sense when you consider that Jefferson did not consider slaves "men". They were objects to people like him.

[–] nyahlathotep@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

They called them boys, not men

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well they counted slaves as cattle back then. I recall they compromised at 3/5 of person.

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Specifically for the sake of giving southern states a higher population count and therefore more seats in the House of Representatives.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Black lives dont matter unless it benefits us.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 4 weeks ago

The US is an amoral shithole and always has been.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago

Yeah, the enslaving states actually wanted to count them as full people, for that purpose. 3/5 was a compromise with the free states. It really shows the power of motivated reasoning.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I'ma compel him to include women in the sequel.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago

I'm reporting you for treason against ~~big brother~~ founding father!

Freedom is slavery and slavery is freedom double plus good!

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

"Thomas the Jefferson" is such a Sonic-esque name...