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Here we go again (lemmus.org)
submitted 10 months ago by jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[-] bad_alloc@feddit.de 97 points 10 months ago

Remember people: Most alternative browsers are chormium under the hood! Not Firefox though :)

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 11 points 10 months ago
[-] whileloop@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago

Building a browser is hard, and it's even harder when one of the maker of the most popular browser also operates several of the most popular websites. So most other browsers (Edge, Brave, Opera, and many more) are Chromium under the hood. This means that they often implement Google's preferred web functionality as opposed to the actual standard. If Google wants some feature going into the browser, most Chromium derivatives will follow their lead. Even though Brave has rejected many of Google's moves, I'd argue it still isn't enough since they still give Google some control over web standards.

The Internet needs to be impartial and fair in its design, this means it shouldn't be influenced by any one interest in particular. Google's indirect influence over nearly the whole browser market goes against the principle of an open web. The only way to fight effectively this is to use an independent browser, like Firefox.

[-] SkySyrup@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

well chrome = basically chromium So basically all changes from chrome carry over to chromium - and subsequently chromium-based browsers like brave opera edge etc

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Brave's and Vivaldi's adblockers are not extensions, so they won't be affected by MV3.

[-] festemmie@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

but youre still supporting something built from chromium, meaning youre still supporting google

[-] THED4NIEL@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

#Vivaldi gang

Edit: okay, how do tags work here anyway?

[-] Hobbes@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago
[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

That's a shitty argument. I like the browser, not the CEO. Should I also ask my grocery store owner his political views before buying from him?

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

It's just art. You can't blame me for not knowing anything about who this "A. Hitler" is supposed to be. Do I have to ask my swastika tattooed art dealer about his political views before buying from him?

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago

While the incoming end of support for manifest v2 is definitely a reason to switch, Google Web Integrity project is way much more concerning.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/googles-web-integrity-api-sounds-like-drm-for-the-web/

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 8 points 10 months ago
[-] craftyindividual@lemm.ee 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not regretting my leap from Reddit to Lemmy at start of July. Firefox is my homeboy, been using it for decades.

[-] MrClayman@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I just swapped everything over, it feels. Lemmy for Reddit. Mastodon for Twitter. Firefox for Chrome.

I have to say, it makes me feel better after having switched. Even if it’s a very small piece of control, it’s mine. :)

[-] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How 'bout swapping Linux for Windows?

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 10 months ago

Great to hear!

[-] Stache_@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Yep, just made the switch yesterday

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 1 points 10 months ago
[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

As soon as they made the news about this I jumped ship. Switched to Firefox on everything, and FF on my phone has been better than expected. Having mobile extensions is phenomenal, especially since I like to listen to YouTube videos while at work, and can keep my phone locked or be in another app while it plays in the background now without paying for premium.

Oh and uBlock my beloved on mobile 🧡

[-] DoakSteezy@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Not sure if you saw, but Mozilla announced desktop extensions coming to mobile soon too.

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 10 months ago
[-] giddy@aussie.zone 13 points 10 months ago

Switched over to firefox a couple of days ago. The switch was actually very easy because I self-host as much as possible including bookmarks and passwords. Hardest part was finding a new speed dial extension that I liked.

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

I installed Firefox on all of my devices a couple of days ago when the new update of Chrome told me about some kind of browser based tracking for ads with the new update, I wish I'd taken a screenshot. I knew I was going to switch back to Firefox anyway with the web DRM they were planning on doing, but the new update pushed me to start changing over now.

If only Firefox could easily migrate my 97+ open tabs on chrome mobile...

[-] soullioness@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

Moving tabs is the hardest part of switching browsers!

[-] ComeHereOrIHookYou@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile at Google... Problem: People are flocking away from Chrome Solution: Implement webpage DRM

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 1 points 10 months ago

They keep doing it again and again.

Know they want to implement browser id checks.

https://vivaldi.com/blog/googles-new-dangerous-web-environment-integrity-spec/

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

We need to go back to NCSA Mosaic.

[-] ponfriend@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It isn't. It's planning to make ad blockers use a crippled API like the one Safari has had for years now, but the timeline for that still hasn't been decided. https://developer.chrome.com/docs/extensions/migrating/mv2-sunset/

[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 10 months ago

thanks for info!

[-] DefinitelyNotBirds@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Hi, I'm one of them! See you in January 2024

[-] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 10 months ago
[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 2 points 10 months ago

Pulse

Cool, didn't know about it!

An experimental Firefox fork that enhances focus and increases work productivity due to its hyper minimalistic UI and built-in tools.

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