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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What you are proposing would start a North American war deadlier than any that has ever been seen. Everyone thought Texas was dumb for talking about secession, but now that other states don’t want to be part of the union, people act like it is a serious idea. It isn’t. Never has been.

In the words of Ben Franklin, β€œwe must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.”

[–] psychadlligoat@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Everyone knew Texas talking about it was dumb because they're not self sufficient

California actually is, and if we're hated by the rest of the country anyway, we'll just go ahead and leave. Let the rest states have fun paying for shit without us

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

New England. Maybe with NY, you could have New New.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Only as a last resort and everything else has been tried.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

We're leaving the east coast? I think they deserve a path too

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

While many of my family members have served in the past and do now, the US is not the end all, be all.

I pledge allegiance to a country without borders, Without Politicians

A bulkanized US would certainly be good for the planet, assuming it survived the preliminary civil wars as nation state boundaries are created and alliances made with Canada and Mexico. Who gains control of all the nukes would be a big question.

No. We'd be overrun by federal troops and decimated within a week. If we could secede peacefully? We (Wisconsin) would probably need an alliance with Minnesota and Michigan to survive.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If just my state left, and I could leave to another state, that would be pretty good. Two Republican senators gone, roughly 15 net house reps gone, and an influx of dem refugees like me into neighboring states.

Texas could legit try to make a go of it as an independent nation. It would be a disaster for my family though.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Do states even have a legal way to secede?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Nojustice@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

See: American civil war

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, because it would lead to civil war. Do I wish it could happen? Yes. But is it realistic? No.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ah, but Trump does not have the balls, brains, or moral integrity of Abraham Lincoln.

So, we got that going for us.

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[–] matdave@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I don't support it, only because my state wouldn't be seperating to join the "good" side

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

If we could do it in a peaceful and democratic way that doesn’t lead to an immediate second civil war, yeah, I’d probably vote for it. It seems to have worked out well enough for Czechia and Slovakia.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago
[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago
[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm cool wit dat

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

yeah if we figure out a way to not starve

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The first step is refering to yourself as a member of your state and not an American I guess

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