The biggest diplomatic loser from this war is the United States.
It's reputation and influence is completely trashed in the Middle East.
Not surprised the Russians and Chinese are looking to spread their influence.
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The biggest diplomatic loser from this war is the United States.
It's reputation and influence is completely trashed in the Middle East.
Not surprised the Russians and Chinese are looking to spread their influence.
Ah yes the US was always viewed so favourably in the Middle East prior to just a month ago.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Where did I say that?
There is a difference from being disliked and being loathed.
Never before has an American Secretary of State been made to wait a day prior to meeting the Leader of Saudi Arabia, met by a minor functionary on an official visit (Turkey), cannot be seen in public with the King of Jordan, etc.
EDIT: Just for clarity, I don't think it is a great thing that China and Russia are expanding their influence in this region.
The middle east isn't one homogenous entity, some places were unfavorable and others were ok
This is likely to make them all worse
I mean, have you seen US-KSA relations? The US almost got KSA to normalize relations with Israel jfc
But the ethnic cleansing of muslims IN China I guess is OK.
More whataboutism.
More whatabout whataboutism.
Feels relevant to bring up since they're putting Beijing and Arabs in the same headline.
Fuck the Uyghurs amirite?
Yea it's very cute that all these islamic leaders just pretend the ugyars don't exist but when there is a chance to screw over Israel the first place they visit to ask for humanitarian assistance is the country that is currently ethnicly cleansing an entire population of Muslims. Israel should be called out, but coming from these guys its more about attacking Israel then saving the people of Gaza.
Whataboutism.
whataboutism isn’t the same as pointing out obvious political opportunism aimed at coercing and exploiting the world’s poor, not to mention the rank hypocrisy of those willingly advancing such exploitation under the thinnest guise of virtue.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The officials holding meetings with China's top diplomat Wang Yi on Monday are from Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Indonesia, Palestinian authorities and the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, among others.
Saudi Arabia has sought to press the United States and Israel for an end to hostilities in Gaza, and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the kingdom's de facto ruler, gathered Arab and Muslim leaders to reinforce that message.
In comments posted by his ministry on X, formerly known as Twitter, Egyptian foreign minister Sameh Shoukry told his Chinese counterpart: "We look forward to a stronger role on the part of great powers such as China in order to stop the attacks against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.
China's Wang said Beijing was a "good friend and brother of Arab and Muslim countries," adding it has "always firmly supported the just cause of the Palestinian people to restore their legitimate national rights and interests."
On Monday, Wang added China will work to "quell the fighting in Gaza as soon as possible, alleviate the humanitarian crisis and promote an early, comprehensive, just and lasting settlement of the Palestinian issue."
China's special envoy on the Middle East, Zhai Jun, has engaged officials from Israel and the Palestinian Authority - which governs in the occupied West Bank - as well as the Arab League and EU in the last year to discuss a two-state solution and recognition for Palestine at the United Nations.
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MBFC is literally made by a single guy. Nobody really knows anything about the guy except for what he's published. The scores are basically pulled out of his ass. I'm not sure if that's exactly the paragon of free and unbiased journalism.
Tell me you didn’t read through the website without telling me you didn’t read through the website. It’s not just one guy, the founder has a whole team listed on the website and a clear methodology.
You’re just salty because the website isn’t super pro Chinese Communist Party.
Their methodology is arbitrary to the point of being incoherent.
Now, maybe if you could find this guy's credentials it might give him a bit more credence. Oh, that's right. You can't.
The methodology is fine. You just don’t like the results.