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[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 137 points 7 months ago

Imagine other stereotype foreigners for every taste.

The short worded German.

The Frenchman who burns the boss' car to send the message.

[-] logi@lemmy.world 57 points 7 months ago

The German may not use a lot of words but he's got just one that carries the whole meaning. It's just in German.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 7 months ago

Its also a very long word.

[-] knatschus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 7 months ago

I have a question on that.

Why is it Highschool Cheerleader captain And not high school cheer leader captain or just Highschoolcheerleadercaptain?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

High school is correct when used as a noun.

Highschool is correct when used as an adjective (referring one who is in high school)

Cheerleader is a verb being used as a proper noun, and because this is one concept using multiple words, we mash the words together, like with High school.

Main cause of this is that German (more accurately, a predecessor to German) has a strong influence on English, and is the core of the language before it was first romanticized with the Norman conquest.

"Maybe" may be my favorite example of words we mash together

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[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung

[-] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 48 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In Mexico I found out that, when you're expected to be somewhere at the actual time written on the appointment, it's called English time. Was a surprise to me (am English) because I thought that was German time.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago

I am a white dude with Mexican in-laws. It took me a while to adapt to the concept of Mexican time. For years, we would show up to events at the time on the invitation and would be the only guests there for hours. By the time we were ready to leave, most other guests would just be arriving. We finally got used to it and most recently went to a birthday party for an 8 year old that said it was starting at 2:00PM. We got there around 6:00 and it was perfect timing.

With that being said, I still can't hang with the Mexican ending times. They'll keep a little kid's birthday party in full on rager mode until like 3 in the morning.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

As someone with Mexican neighbors, that last part is way too fucking true.

I know it's your third kid's fifth birthday, but could you maybe stop blasting your outdoor speakers at top volume? Because it's 2 a.m. and it's a Tuesday.

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[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Trying to decide if this party takes place in the Valley or IE. Same story here but the wife turns in to a pumpkin at 11pm so I never have a hard time leaving lol

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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 25 points 7 months ago

I've experienced this with the local South Asian Indian culture. After showing up to a wedding at the actual time of the invite with no one there, I mean the temple is still closed, and the ensuing laughter of me showing up on time versus the 2 hour buffer they add, I refer to it as Indian Standard Time now.

I see it all the time in vendors, drivers, staff and hockey teammates. Being on time is sort of a suggestion for many of them in observation. They say a time they think you want to hear and then do whatever they really are going to do.

It was very frustrating when we could barely start games on time or at all due to not enough players to start. However near the end of the game everyone is there, then they want to keep playing long after the game ends. It's really bizarre to me being raised on "English" time.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Indian Strechable Time

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That explains why some of my international colleagues will call my work phone at like 7:00 p.m local time. even when I've told them to call at 5 p.m local time.

I always thought they had a problem with understanding the concept of time zones but perhaps they just don't understand the concept of punctuality.

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

Nigerian foreign student told me that being exactly on time (not late) was white people thing and I should've told her that if I required it.

Well live and learn, but I told her I had already left. I'm not waiting for 10 minutes for you

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 20 points 7 months ago

English man in America here. Once I explain that "I'm so sorry, but can I just..." means "Would you shut the fuck up and listen" everyone suddenly understands.

[-] doubletwist@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

The short worded German.

I don't understand this one. Have you seen how long German words are??

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[-] Lumidaub@feddit.de 95 points 7 months ago

That's a court jester.

(Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

[-] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 29 points 7 months ago

Now imaging when the American isn't telling the king off, he just dances and falls on his butt a lot.

[-] logi@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

So... The American is a drunk college student?

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago
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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 7 months ago

Man, I'm really qualified for this job. Where we're they at on career day?

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[-] uservoid1@lemmy.world 59 points 7 months ago

The crazy thing about it is not that there is a role for someone to tell management it is going the wrong direction, but that the system expect management to actually hear and act upon those observations

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 48 points 7 months ago

I read it more as management had identified the issue and implemented this loud American role to get around the cultural issue of employees not speaking up. In other words, that management wants this input.

Of course, if the loud American role is being pushed by upper management on employees of lower level managers, then yeah...

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 49 points 7 months ago

"With all due respect, and remember I'm saying with all due respect, that idea ain't worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin getting it on."

[-] seth@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Well now, that leaves a lot of room for value in the idea, as that would be a fine painting indeed.

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[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 45 points 7 months ago

A Dutch person would be even better. No drama, just telling you that you suck.

[-] nl_the_shadow@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. Dutch work culture is pretty much no bullshit. No emotions flying everywhere needed. If the idea is stupid, we'll let you know.

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

My new boss is dutch, so I'm excited...

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 26 points 7 months ago

Everyone knows this is not true, right??

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

While not exactly true, foreigners are given much more allowance to mistakenly break social expectations. However, the more fluent in their social hierarchy you become, the more you're expected to abide.

But no, that doesn't mean you get to be the "~~dude~~" "rude" pitch hitter if office politics. It means you don't need to take your boss out drinking, leave earlier, etc.

If course, that's at the trade off of a stagnantcareer without much hope for long term growth.

China does have the phenomenon where they hire white people to wear suits to work events to make the company look international and important.

Edit - great autocorrect.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

For real. Has nobody heard of the tradition of Gekokujō?

It means "low becomes high." It's the Japanese tradition of killing your superior and taking over if they give stupid orders.

[-] saltnotsugar@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago

For some reason I pictured a Peter Griffin kind of guy giving them even wackier advise.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

That is the gamble with confident Americans. Sometimes we’re going to suggest something that makes everything simpler and/or better. Other times we’re going to suggest something batshit insane.

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[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

I worked at Nintendo of America for 7 years. This is a cute story, but not close to reality at all.

My American bosses would have weekly meetings with Japan. Firstly, there weren't Americans on staff in our sister department at Nintendo Japan. Secondly, since everything is done through translators, meetings were limited to specific talking points. Questions were constantly raised in both directions, but results didnt happen because of a loud American. Results came on the Japanese Business schedule, which just takes forever no matter what, and you have to be able to prove your idea is a good business decision from the start.

But back to the main story, do you really think NINTENDO would allow an American in Japan to make business decisions?

Do you think they still would have named consoles, "Wii U" or "New 3DS" if so? We were so loud about those..

[-] Montagge@kbin.social 15 points 7 months ago

Wish we had loud Americans in America

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[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Ahhahha northern European firms do something similar with Portuguese.

We are known for not planing and just improving everything last min. (Most of southern Europe too kinda.) Or at least we just are more used to then them.

So they have a firm full of Swedish, Norwegians and Germans and they make the plans for the future.

If the plans go to shit they call in the Portuguese to improve something salvable

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

You find out what the Portuguese term for "duct tape" is.

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[-] Deuces@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

That's great! Just so you know, the word in English for coming up with something as you go is spelled "improvise".

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[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Heyyy fuckin cowboy fuckin cowgirl how the fuck are you doin?

[-] Destraight@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

I don't believe this. Where is your proof, OP?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

Can't you see it, it was said by someone on Tumblr who heard it from some professor who has a friend who is one.

What more would you need??

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 7 months ago

You can go the British route and just set up an entire slack channel dedicated to complaining about the boss.

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

The modern day Jester

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I imagine the interview:

Boss: you don't meet any of the requirements.

Applicant: I don't need any of the requirements. Be happy that anyone applied for this shithole!

Boss: say no more, you're hired!

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Reminds me of China where they would hire Americans to just attend meetings with them to give their side an air of importance. They wouldn't even say anything beyond "Hello". "See? We have an American."

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago

I was that guy at my previous (American) job. I pushed back on the COO all the time in meetings with others. I recently learned that he got fired. Doesn't mean I was right, but it does mean that he was ineffective.

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