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[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Anything but fair compensation.

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

“Spotify already pays nearly 70% of every dollar it generates from music to the record labels and publishers that own the rights for music, and represent and pay artists and songwriters," it continues.

The problem isn't the streaming platforms (unless you want to pay more for your streaming service), but the record labels. Spotify never made profit.

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Music used to be more valuable because it was more scarce and more difficult to deliver. Now anybody can make a song and put it on the internet. The value has gone down and artists/labels need to recognize that or people aren't gonna pay them at all.

[–] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

“Spotify already pays nearly 70% of every dollar it generates from music to the record labels and publishers that own the rights for music, and represent and pay artists and songwriters," it continues.>

I dunno, ifnthat is true it seems more than fair compensation.

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fair compensation for who? Record labels who already rake in tons of money, or small artists that now need 1000 streams a year at minimum to get paid at all on a specific track?

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I've been making and distributing my own music for over 3 years, not only on Spotify, and JUST hit a total $26 I've made.

[–] GenEcon@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

With increasing the necessary streams to 1000 it will get better, since AI mass produced music won't get any share anymore.

[–] Kalothar@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What kind of music? And would you be willing to share, maybe DM it if you’re more comfortable

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Mostly electronic music with no words. This is my most recent track: Midnight Funk Train by Thassodar on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/DLhDp

I have an album I put out at the beginning of September that's on all streaming services (Spotify link):

Leveling Up

www.linktr.ee/thassodar has links to everything else!

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Maybe try k-pop?

[–] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

I've had music on Spotify almost a decade now. Best it's done was pay to keep it on Spotify. It won't even be able to do that anymore.

[–] oDDmON@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

You do know why bands and artists sell merch at venues, right?

The contracts they’ve signed may entitle them to little or nothing of ticket sales.

[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

The problem isn't as simple as "Spotify Bad", you're right.

It's that the default contracts for artists are outdated, written for the world of cd and record sales. In the new world of streaming, artists need to bargain for greater rights to streaming proceeds in their contacts - and they're working on it, but god knows the publishers don't want to give anything up.

Spotify as a company barely makes money; I've heard they're actually in the red. The villains are the labels, and Spotify and other streaming services are the weapon they are using to rip off their artists.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The amazing thing about legislations like this is when eventually the lawmakers backtrack, they lay out red carpet to bring back business, making the situation even worse for the people.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

All that matters is what it looks like on paper. The paper they segment and define themselves.