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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (6 children)

what I want with AI games: Free conversations with NPCs who react to your actions.

what I don't want, endless slop

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what is the appeal of talking to an NPC that uses chatgpt to respond? you would get the same experience talking to a cat or a houseplant

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

instead of writing pages of dialogue, write a lot of back story, personality, interests, knowledge, info they have, quests they have to share, sample of how they talk...

fine tune models... this way each character would sound unique, rather than standard chat gpt.

a good prototype would be about a village with about a dozen of NPCs.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (3 children)

another use, draw assets for a age of empires like game. then generate a diffusion model on them. now you can make rows of houses and non of them will be identical and all will fit in the art style.

same things with textures, no more repeating textures.

[–] kat@orbi.camp 1 points 5 days ago
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

I feel you, but imagine if a game dev trained their own LLM exclusively on their own content. Only their own dialogue and lore. Could be fascinating then. Not something I wanna see a lot of work out into at the expense of other things, but could be interesting.

And to reiterate, I genuinely mean only trained on data the studio has a copyright on already.

[–] Sebastrion@leminal.space 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if you have heard about the game AI2U: With You 'Til The End that's basically a Escape the room game where a Girl kidnapped you and you need to escape. You can talk to the AI girl about any bullshit, interact and show them items in your inventory etc. If you make them upset they will maybe kill you, or they can like you so much that they will help you escape. I had a lot of fun with this game.

thanks, looks like a cool concept

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I figure if people can’t be bothered to develop the games then I can’t be bothered to play them either.

[–] Minizarbi@jlai.lu 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I always wondered if I could play Skyrim but with an option to say or ask custom things to NPCs

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I think someone made a mod for that because of course they did.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They absolutely did, awhile ago too. It's the Mantella mod. Used to be a nightmare to set up but now it's good. Pretty fun talking to characters.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is it bad that I know what the Mantella is in Elder Scrolls lore?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There was a question about Daedric Princes in a trivia game I went to recently. They gave four of them and you had to match what they were the prince of. I felt confident about two but only got one right. Of course I got Shegorath right.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

What was the one you messed up? I'm gonna guess either mephala or meridia since they are kinda weird, either that or the answer was Magnus who is technically a daedra though not usually lumped in with the rest.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I thought Sanguine or whatever was the murder one but I remembered wrong. They gave the four categories and we had to match them. I thought Malacath might be based on Malakith from War Hammer and that seemed pretty hedonistic but it was a 50/50. (Well, I thought it was a 50/50 lol.) The last was Mephala who I thought might be lies. And if you know the lore well you probably already knew Mephala was the fourth they mentioned lol.

Oh yeah I can definitely see where ya went wrong. Go watch 4 hours of Fudge Muppet elder scrolls lore video, then go watch pancreas no work videos for Warhammer.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wait, isn't Mephala the prince of lies, spinning a web of them like a spider spinning a web?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

I don't know, I may have transcribed from the wiki wrong.

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

If I see some AI Slop thumbnail for your shit ass ripoff game then you can bet your ass I’ll never play it let alone ever pay money for it.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if games with UGC report they have AI content. (Games that allow for outside assets and code)

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Are algorithms the same as AI?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oooohhh Grooosssssss! It's gonna fucking overtake the real content so fast, now. jfc, how do we even sort them out if the "creators" don't follow the disclosure rules?

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You need to train your ability to spot AI.

AI art has a very distinctive style. Weird shadows, impossible architecture, and having a blatantly incorrect number of fingers are dead giveaways.

AI text tends to talk at you rather than with you. It has difficulty remembering context, so it tends to forget what you said 10 lines ago.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How about we figure out a better way to detect and sort it so I don't have to waste time making judgements?

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You're assuming that the detector can be trusted. The detector could be someone who is being paid to mislead you on purpose.

If AI presence really matters to you, you need to trust your own two eyes for this sort of thing. Offloading that work to someone else is a considerable risk.

And to be honest, detecting AI is pretty fast once you're able to spot it. I can spot the typical variants of AI art in just a few seconds.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not assuming anything, I'm saying we should make something happen.

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[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Read reviews. Examine promotional materials. Discuss with friends.

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