61km/h instead of 48km/h. You’re welcome.
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38 in a 30.
You're welcome.
There’s a road near my house that has sections at 30mph, 40, and 50. Most folks drive 45 on all three.
I dont find this too wild honestly.
I do. Driving 61 instead of 48 km/h increases your distance to stop at an emergency by almost 8m. This is assuming 300ms reaction time. By the time you would have stopped at 48km/h you would still be ramming whatever it is you're emergency braking for with ~~40km/h~~ 15km/h if you go 61km/h.
Speeding is no joke, please read about how braking distance scales with speed. Especially if you go 50km/h in a 30 you're spelling a death sentence for anyone and anything running into the streets. And no, "they shouldn't run on the street" is not an argument, children and animals will always do unpredictable things, and being inattentive isn't a reason to execute someone
Edit: used km/h instead of m/s in my calculations
Good point, you are absolutely right, also since she was caught multiple times maybe its time for her to rethink her actions
38mph in a 30mph zone
Seems strict to me. but I'm not British.
30 is for built up areas. Also key is that jaywalking isn’t a thing in Britain. Pedestrians always have right of way and can cross the street at any point so in urban areas motorists must be prepared to stop at any time.
There’s also a 10% grace where prosecutions under that are unusal. But the chances of survival being hit at 38mph are significantly lower than at 30, or even 33.
The ban is for exceeding the penalty points on her licence. She had 9pts before this conviction, and speeding carries 6-8pts which has put her over the 12pt limit, which she accumulated over 3yrs so that’s a 6-month ban.
After 6 months she will need to take her driving test again and reapply for her licence.
Just as this this guy says
you dont get a ban for the first instance. This shows repeated offences. Lucky she has the money for a driver.
I have little patience for serial speeders. Gripe all you like, but speed limits save lives.
Particularly in populated areas, slow the fuck down. Too many people could get hurt, go speed somewhere the people aren't.
But the chances of survival being hit at 38mph are significantly lower than at 30, or even 33.
I've been knocked down by a car doing 5mph. My head was embedded in the bonnet, bounced off it, and then I was on the road staring at the underside and tyre of a fortunately stopped car before my puny human brain could figure out what happened.
Being hit, even at 5mph, is not something you'd want, let alone 38.
My idiot sister racked up nine points in six months after moving to the UK. She claimed not to have seen the 40mph sign she blew past at 50. "They're so small!" She only started paying attention when she realised she was one ticket away from a ban.
To be fair, I struggled with the UK signs when I moved here from Sweden. Big yellow quite distinct, to smaller ones that pop less from the surroundings. Not an excuse as such, but I find it understandable.
Pretty sure speeding in that range would net a fixed penalty of 3 points. Also, she would have had the first 3 points discounted via an awareness course. So, in effect this is likely the 5th offense, or less if one or more of the others was serious enough to get 6 points.
She already had nine points on her licence, so she's a repeat offender, hence the book getting thrown at her.
Conversely, this happened in Oxford, which is well known for being strict on drivers. She might have got away with it elsewhere.
I initially thought that. But the article makes it clear. But you need to know how our licenses work.
Normally for speeding (up to 42mph in a 30) you would get as a first offense the choice of paying for a speed awareness course OR 3 points + fine, and 43-49mph you would get a fixed penalty of 3 points and a fine. Subsequent offenses would go straight to points + fine.
However the points are important. Your points expire after 3 years. But if you have 12 active points at any time, you will then get a compulsory ban (unless you can prove to a court you need to drive, which is abused of course). Which is what likely happened here.
So, she's been quite the habitual offender.
Interesting the cultural difference here. People arguing in favor of, or at least the reasonableness of, the law and its application. Americans regularly speed, 20+ mph over the limit is not uncommon. People would lose their shit over a driving ban in the US, and probably keep driving anyway. DUI repeat offenders and suspended license drivers are pretty common.
and probably keep driving anyway
In much of the US, the alternative is lose your job and become homeless, so.
I had my license suspended for 90 days - due to a paperwork error when I was in college. I just had hope I didnt get pulled over at that time because I had no choice but to drive for school and work.
Repeat offenders and unlicensed drivers happen here as well. But the use of cameras makes it much harder then the past.
But having lived in the US. Most of it has so little public transport not driving is impossible. Here it is doable in all but the most remote areas. Just crap compared to the 80s and before. It is still way better the most cities in the US.
"She is in a position to pay the fine."
No shit!
Millionaire ($85m) problems. Girl can pay for uber
I think the point is that she can but she's still arrogant and entitled enough to speed and get caught... and then speed and get caught again.
And again, and again. 1st time is 3 points or speed awareness course (why would anyone not do it), then assuming she didn't accrue points in a different way (bald tyres etc) it's 3 points for each subsequent speeding offense and you need 12 points for a 6 month ban. That's 5 times caught speeding in 3 years.