this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2025
55 points (100.0% liked)

Legal News

559 readers
25 users here now

International and local legal news.


Basic rules

1. English onlyTitle and associated content has to be in English.
2. Sensitive topics need NSFW flagSome cases involve sensitive topics. Use common sense and if you think that the content might trigger someone, post it under NSFW flag.
3. Instance rules applyAll lemmy.zip instance rules listed in the sidebar will be enforced.


Icon attribution | Banner attribution


If someone is interested in moderating this community, message @brikox@lemmy.zip.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 4 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 13 points 3 weeks ago

If this passes muster (and you know the administration will be watching/rooting for it to do so), the concurrent push for denaturalizing will become a very powerful too to silence anyone they want.

Heaven forbid they actually get SCOTUS to say that all citizenship can be revoked.

[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 11 points 3 weeks ago

He explicitly argues that “Qatanani is not part of ‘the people’ the First Amendment protects” and that non-citizens cannot “claim its protection.”

His reasoning? A convoluted “originalist” argument claiming that because the First Amendment refers to “the people,” it only applies to those who are “part of a national community” with sufficient “allegiance” to the sovereign. Non-citizens, he argues, owe only “temporary allegiance” and therefore get only “temporary protection”—protection that can be withdrawn whenever the government decides they’ve become “dangerous.”

This sounds like the judge fell out of a parallel universe. Is it typical to make up so many new, complex semantic constructs in a single opinion? A "national community" and some notion of membership in it. "Allegiance" to "the sovereign"? Sovereign what? Like the head of state, or a platonic ideal of the USA? And once "allegiance" is defined, there's now "temporary allegiance" that begets "temporary protection"?

My understanding of legal matters is that judges typically pour over not just the wording and meaning of law, but also the wording and meaning of other judges' opinions and verdicts, and concepts like these are developed over many cases spanning decades or more. I'm really not usually one for conspiracy theories, but either this judge has the wrong job and should be writing tabletop RPG modules, or this has all been planned out, and he's been fed a path his verdicts are supposed to slowly trod, and he skipped ahead a few chapters.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

That’s why a new dissenting opinion from Trump-appointed Judge Paul Matey

That explains everything.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

We need to be rid of these traitorous, anti-American judges.