Interesting thing about most sugar substitutes is they actually kill mouth & gut microbiome.
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I thought xylitol was good for gut biome
We have mouth/gut biome that eats sugar? Seems weird.
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Well shit I use it daily for my coffee and home-made milk tea. Reading all this stuff coming to light about sugar substitutes is gonna make me just go back to regular sugar or maybe coconut sugar, and I’ll just control my intake.
Honestly, I've had better luck just getting higher quality tea and cutting sugar from morning beverages entirely. (I don't drink coffee, but low quality teas tend to become bitter, which required sugar. Higher quality teas never become bitter)
These days, I'm cutting sugar across the board. Shredded wheat with frozen raspberries tastes better than honey bunches of oats anyways. And the sugar I'm eating is pretty much just for fun, like pie or ice cream. No reason to accidentally ingest 28g of sugar in a breakfast bar that doesn't even taste that good.
Never got why coffee needs sugar. Its supposed to be bitter. If its too bitter then you may add milk. But sugar? That doesn't belong in coffee.
You can use Stevia. It's a natural product, zero calories. There is a more expensive option in monk fruit as well. I live on Stevia. It's easily available in groceries and stores, and reasonably priced too.
I do use Stevia. The thing is, all the stevia products I see at the grocery store are laced with erythritol. Does the product you consume exclusively use stevia only?
I buy stand alone stevia product, and never buy drinks or baked goods in the store. I make them myself at home. I have not been able to find stevia-made drinks or foods like ice cream here so I just don't consume them. It's summer, and I'd love to have some ice cream once in a while but I don't.
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not all of them, sweetleaf doesnt have any of the substitute. there are others.
stevia is not a natural product. there is indeed a plant named stevia and it can be used as a sweetener. Stevia that you buy at the store is chemically produced and is derived through a complex process that uses petroleum based chemistry to extract the chemicals from the plant.
raw sugar has far less environmental impact than buying stevia. if you truly want a sugar alternative grow your own sugar beets. it's literally raw sugar(sucrose).
if you truly want a sugar alternative grow your own sugar beets. it's literally raw sugar(sucrose).
So it's literally not a sugar alternative
Best used as ETN then.
As long as they don't find a problem with maltitol. I just discovered "low-sugar" ice creams made using the stuff and they're amazing
It's not zero sugar like erythritol, and it's not as sweet, but I like it
to all of you who worry about this stuff: do you drive? do you walk or live next to roads? do you make sure there's a low concentration of CO2 in any room you're in?
If not, those things are way more worrisome than any sweetener unless you chug 50 liters of soda per day.