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[โ€“] arakhis_@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] ChronicEntertainment@lemmy.zip 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 16 hours ago

i get great results with it. ymmv

[โ€“] dotdi@lemmy.world 84 points 6 days ago (9 children)

Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch close to Putin AFAIK. That would disqualify it from this list in my opinion

[โ€“] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago

Isn't it fun to look into companies and suddenly realize they're all shit!?

[โ€“] lenya@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just learned about this from this other post if someone wants more details:

https://lemmy.world/post/33642043

Shame, more competition with Spotify would be a good thing.

[โ€“] dudesss@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Qobuz? High quality music. Family plans. Music purchases and audio file downloads. Gift cards!

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[โ€“] kayohtie@pawb.social 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Weird how the chart just prioritizes other corporations and only shows true open-source or self-hosted solutions when there are no non-US options realistically. Hmm.

[โ€“] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What are the missing open-source alternatives ? I dont think there is anything like a open-source Netflix for example.?

[โ€“] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago
[โ€“] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

Spotify: actually a Swedish company, but one of the worst companies out there. I hate Apple but at least they are paying artists better. Spotify actively supports scammers (with AI music and phone farms) and breaks the law by promoting artists connected to their stakeholders.

Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch who funds the US republican party.

Don't know about the rest. But as far as I know there are no music streaming services with a moral compass.

[โ€“] mitram@sopuli.xyz 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)
[โ€“] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

We are currently pausing new signups in order to work on our system.

Sad face... I'll keep an eye on it, thanks!

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[โ€“] koper@feddit.nl 18 points 5 days ago

This is an ad made by infomaniak to promote their products. OP, are you affiliated with them?

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 38 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I switched from Dropbox to Nextcloud, saved a bunch of money and couldn't be happier. It's fantastic open source software. I don't understand why it's rarely listed in these guides.

Under my Nextcloud provider (Murena - not the cheapest, but they develop my phone OS so I figured I can support them) I also have OnlyOffice running on the cloud, which is great for co-authoring. And I also get e-mail there of course, though I mostly use e-mail from my web-hosting provider. I think Nextcloud also has video conferencing.

For search I use Qwant for now. I like that they're slowly developing their own index, yet they are less puritan than Mojeek so the results are a bit more reliable. Haven't heard of Karma before.

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[โ€“] Ephemeral@feddit.org 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Avoid infomaniak. Company is anti anonimity, CEO said only criminals want it. As a result they are supporting the anti encryption laws coming to Switzerland.

[โ€“] derpgon@programming.dev 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Be careful, Tuta does not support IMAP/POP3, and you'll have to use their own client.

[โ€“] stormeuh@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Wow, thanks for mentioning this, I'm seriously looking at moving away from gmail, and Tuta was my frontrunner. Sad that they aren't more upfront about this... I see Proton is kind of the same to some extent, but then they have a local bridge application which translates their protocol to IMAP/SMTP. Does anyone have experience with that?

[โ€“] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I have a ProtonVPN subscription, but I think you need to pay for the more expensive tiers, cause the tier I have (VPN Plus 4$/month) gives me complementary mail, but I can't use the mail bridge as it's not paid. I think you need the Proton Mail or Proton Unlimited plan to be able to use mail bridge. Proton Unlimited gives you everything (VPN, Mail, Calendar, Drive, Pass, and Wallet). Basically if you just want mail bridge, buy Mail pass, but if you want Mail and more, buy unlimited.

Mailbox.org is what I use, it supports POP3/IMAP (I use it via Thunderbird) and is very cheap, the light package is about 1โ‚ฌ a month for 2GB, 3 aliases (I use anonaddy for free aliases instead), and apparently video conferencing. The Standard package is 2.5โ‚ฌ/month with a yearly payment, more storage and gives you cloud storage, online office, custom domain aliases, and uses OpenTalk for conferences.

[โ€“] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I don't know about that but swiss privacy law is about to get so terrible that I wouldn't switch to it unless they rebase.

Every mail service has a drawback

Posteo can't do custom domains

Mailbox.org has non-anonymous registration + tracking

Proton is based in Switzerland with horrible incoming privacy laws

Nubo is a startup and unproven security-wise

Tuta doesn't allow 3rd party clients

Startmail has no calendar

[โ€“] Niquarl@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

Unless i'm mistaken Proton has just announced they will be leaving Switzerland for Germany.

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I've been using Proton Bridge for over a year and it works really well - lets me use Thunderbird and my phone's native mail app wihout issues, just remember to keep the bridge app running on your computer.

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[โ€“] Corelli_III@midwest.social 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

generally a good idea to get off of streaming and cloud services for things you can do locally

better security, better for the environment

all the worst companies want you streaming and using cloud services with them, just don't

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Jellyfin servers for your movies and tv shows is the way to go!

[โ€“] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

How'd you obtain the movies in the first place?

[โ€“] Sunshine@piefed.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

You can rip them from blurays.

[โ€“] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago

I don't run a jellyfin server (yet), but a lot of people torrent their media by using a bunch of arr tools (Sonarr, Radar, Prowlarr, etc.) to do it I guess. So basically sail the high seas with some tools, download Jellyfin on a device (or set a proper server) and you're set to have your own media streaming.

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[โ€“] leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not sure recommending Swiss services is a particularly great idea from a privacy perspective right now.

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[โ€“] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Lemmy icon is not very descriptive for those who do not know Lemmy.

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[โ€“] miridius@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Lol at recommending deezer, the company owned by a Russian oligarch with ties to the Kremlin who donates to the republican party

[โ€“] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Spotify is Swedish? Why is it listed next to American companies?

[โ€“] klu9@piefed.social 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

"Yes, but...."

  • Listed on the New York Stock Exchange via a holding company in Luxembourg that issues American depositary receipts. (Who knows what percentage of its 'shares'/ADRs are held by U.S. investors?)
  • Paid Joe Rogan US$100 million for his alt-right podcast.
  • Donated $150,000 to President Donald Trump's 2025 inauguration ceremony, as well as hosted an inauguration-related brunch.
[โ€“] artiman@piefed.social 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

it's controlled by americans.

[โ€“] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 5 points 5 days ago

Disagree with Video Streaming, pirate it instead.

[โ€“] PDFuego@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I'm trying out Filen to replace OneDrive, but it appears to be completely unusable. When mounted as a network drive it takes 10+ seconds to navigate through each folder, and opening files (for example a 90kb Excel file) takes upwards of 3 minutes. Closing Excel then also takes another minute because it has to communicate with the drive to tell it to close the temporary one and all that. Using the desktop app instead of mounting isn't a viable option because it doesn't let you open things directly, you have to download and save a file, use it, then manually reupload it again.

Is this just how it is? I've found other people with the same issues but can't seem to see any solutions. People have also reported that it's unreliable for backups because uploads/downloads sometimes just stop quietly in the background without telling you. Is this all user error? Are these programs vetted at all before being pushed or is not being US-based literally the only thing that matters regardless of any other factors?

I'll try out Nextcloud and Drime because they've been recommended in the comments here.

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