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We are a women's only community, so please no male comments.
Edit: thanks all for reporting the hostile remarks! You really are an amazing group of people. Really appreciate how positive so many men have been as well. I see you all and value you ❤️
Can't even be a hateful bigot at work
I wish the solution to racism wasn't just racism towards the people doing it. The only way to stop racism is to stop being racist.
This isn't racist. This statement isn't about decent human beings. If someone is offended by it, maybe they need to be less ignorant or maybe they aren't decent.
When a man makes fun of a woman for something seemingly inherent to a woman, the response isn't to attack all men. That's being sexist to defeat sexism.
When a white person makes fun of a black person for something seemingly inherent to black people, the response shouldn't be to attack all white people. That's being racist to defeat racism.
It is a flawed response as it will always be as equally incorrect as the initial remark. It doesn't fix the thing you take issue with, it just further deepens the line between groups.
Maybe, but in the tweet, did soph say "white men" or "all white men"?
There are times when hurt people do call out all men in their wording, which isn't accurate to say, but there seem to be more times when the language is just ambiguous or overtly does not call out all the people of a group and the #notallmen people read into things and then get angry on the internet.
But beyond even that, I sort of just think social media was a mistake. #notallmen wasn't a thing in the past because women vented in person to each other, or to male allies they trusted enough about other men. Women could express their feelings, and a portion of men wouldn't get angry due to feeling as though they were personally called out. Everything about Twitter from its limited character counts precluding context and people feeling like they can say any horrible thing to each other without consequence has regressed us as a species.
Exactly.
BTW, third rule of this community:
Don’t hate on groups, hatefilled talk about groups is not allowed. Ever.
You wouldn't be walking on eggshells if you didn't want to say shit that'd upset people
*Racist, misogynist asshole white men are walking around on eggshells at work. Fixed it. I never walk around on eggshells at work as a white man. This is a Fox News survey so so I’m sure this is accurate for their viewership.
Ahh, so white men are finally developing some social awareness. That's excellent news, thank you for sharing, Fox.
I mean... Good? We nowadays have these things called "societal norms", which means everyone needs to think before they open their big stupid mouths.
You know what real pros do? They were already aware of this, and were already doing this.
If you have to be taught these lessons now, well, take it as a learning opportunity. Expand your horizons. Enhance your compassion.
Legit, i read this out to the hubs (a white male) and his response was a bewildered "what the fuck are they doing that they have to be afraid??"
White dude here, in the US, currently sitting at work. (Sorry to disobey the “women only community” request, but I hope this is constructive and maybe even reaches some angry guy lurking.)
And I’m walking on fuckin’ sunshine over here because I’m nice to people and I got myself out of the Conservatism Spectrum Disorder shit that I was born into.
It’s funny how things work…
Being white? Fine. I’ve never been attacked for it, even by people who have very much the opposite of white privilege.
Being a dude? Also working out well. I have a hell of a sex drive for a middle aged dad-bodder, and of course there are attractive people at work, yet I have managed to not stalk or grab or attack or cat call anybody. (the exception for some of those is my wife, in a good way)
There are a whole lot of bad men out there. Being a good one requires recognizing that. If you’re already resisting that concept then you’re already way off track because we’re talking about half of humanity.
And if you feel like you’re walking on eggshells, yeah maybe it’s some other toxic person’s fault, but make sure to take a long hard look at yourself too. That feeling of self-consciousness or embarrassment might be you starting to get it.
Zink thanks so much for popping by! As you mentioned we are women only, so please don't comment again, thanks for understanding 😊
The only fear is for my fellow blue collar white workers to find out I'm not as fascist or pedo-loving as they are.
Why - did they hear people had eggshells they don't want walked on?
Don’t take the rage bait
I'm really looking forward coming back to this community tomorrow, with the knowledge that many deeply unpleasant people have been banned and will not be around anymore.
The moderators of this community do an exquisite job. Rules are enforced, but with kindness. All rule breaking is treated as an honest mistake, unless proven otherwise.
Even though this thread is filled with vitriol, there is no censorship. No comments were removed by moderators. Bans are not applied retroactively.
Thanks so much for the work you do for this community! Keep it up! ❤️❤️❤️
Depends what they're on eggshells about. I know the implication of how it's worded in the screenshot, but I'm going to be pedantic and say it depends. Boss cranky because of personal problems? Nah. They want to make racist jokes constantly? Yeah. Quit it.
Shitting on men
No male comments
With all due respect, I do not believe this should be allowed, should it?
Terrible when men do this, no better when done by women
Gotta love this take on "shitting on".
You: "Endure" mild criticism of broadcasting your point of view 24×7 in every conceivable locale (to the point you're broadcasting it now in a group explicitly asking you not to do it).
We: Endure non-stop sexist comments, sexual advances, sexual assaults and, upon suggesting that perhaps this is not such a good idea, get dog-piled by men with hurt fee-fees, get doxxed, get threats of active sexual assault, and in extreme cases take beatings and even get murdered.
We are not the same. Our concerns are not the same. Don't be a putz and pretend they are.
Well we could just chase you off with horrifically abusive commentary, doxxing, rape threats and the usual methods but it seemed like too much work.
Fuck off with this bullshit! I'm white and bald with a beard. I'm doing just fine. The trick is being on the correct side.
Gotta love a victim complex. So attractive. 🙄
"I'm a hardcore racist and misogynist and I'm pissed I can't express these views at work anymore." - author.
I don't think it's that bad anymore, but there definitely was a time during the late 2010s where the man-hating got a bit too much in my opinion. Maybe I was just exposed to it more due being in an industry that attracts a lot of hyper idealistic people who are oddly comfortable being very antagonistic toward white men especially. According to my boyfriend, he hasn't really seen or experienced any of the behavior I was witnessing evolving over the years but he is also not really part of "my world" so to speak.
I think it very much depend on what environment you're in. Just like there has been a lot of focus on women harassed at their male dominated workplace. It's definitely real and they definitely have experienced that, but it doesn't mean it is a 100% universal experience. I personally haven't experienced harassment from men in the workplace, but there definitely are women out there who haven't been so lucky. It really comes down to what the work culture is and whether it is built on mutual respect or bully-like hierarchies. The latter is the type of work environment I will avoid like the plague until I die.
Anyway, I am sure that there are white men out there who feel antagonized at work, but it's not universal and it is most likely in very specific areas where the work culture adheres to the most extreme fringes of leftwing ideology. Could also be in the opposite of that if the white man doesn't live up to whatever they think makes a man a man in the extreme rightwing workplaces these days.
I wonder if the Fox News thing was from before or after compliance task forces started confiscating posters from the workplace that had sayings like "Spread Kindness Everywhere" bc it promotes harmful DEI?
Bc I feel like even if that had ever been true, it really just doesn't hit the same these days when everybody has to walk on eggshells as they learn what all was included in diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Oh, you're the first in your family to go to college? You think men can be nurses too? You think it was kind of fucked up they just fired Carol after 30 yrs bc she had cancer and would need to take leave? You best shut your mouth with that woke bullshit.
Only brown eggs.