Every year I tell timetabling "don't inflict 9am classes on my students, it provably punishes poorer students (commute costs) and drives poor engagement", every year they ignore me.
Many of your teachers hated morning classes too.
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In middle school, I took what we called 0 period PE so that I could do a double band period (symphonic and jazz) and that shit started at 640. Thankfully that was only 2 years, and these days I hate waking up before 730.
I had to teach a zero period jazz band when I student taught. Waking up that early to drive the 45 minutes suuuuuckkkked
i still have nightmares about school
I remember in high school we had before school weight lifting which started so early. So start with that, do a full day of class, after school sports and then homework before doing it again. Pretty crazy how many things were crammed in a day.
Yep. Ours went from 0730 or so to 3:30. But it was a somewhat rural area, so if you took the bus you’d have to be on the bus by 0640-45, which means getting up at 0600 or so, and not getting home until after 4 pm. Then there was homework…
E: just looked at my former school’s sked. Started at 07:25AM.
And god forbid you do a sport or have a job after school
Just abuse in general. Descartes died because he had to wake up early.
My high school and middle school (they were right next to each other and shared buses) started at 7:15 AM, half the year it was dark when the bus picked us up and we lived in the far south where days didn't get super short. It was bullshit then and it is bullshit now. It was nice to get out of school before 2PM I guess.
When I was able to drive to school I stopped showing up on time and just went in when I was done sleeping and getting ready at my own pace.
Schools near me have shifted high school start times to later. Its been that was for years now.
It is really weird to see it in mainstream news now, and even RFK is for it (that fucking weirdo).
I thought letting teens sleep in late was blue state woke and would never be nationwide.
Fox news found a Hypnotist that said teens should sleep later. A hypnotist... really fox? Even when they are right they are still stupid fucks.
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Schools - and some businesses - see getting up early as some kind of achievement, a trait to be proud of. A thought that was mirrored in the influencer scene with the insane 'grindset' videos. Get up early and get done more than the others... Completely ignoring that the amount of sleep we need doesn't change with how early you get up.
Some people get up early and have no problem with that, but that's not the case for everyone. In the dawn of time, it was better to have some people who get up early and some who prefer to stay up late: that way the tribe was better protected because the time where everyone was sleeping was minimized.
Now everyone who biologically tends to be more productive when they can work late and get up late is painted as lazy and forced to work against their inner clock.
Actually, many teachers oppose early start times, and perfect attendance awards are disappearing every year, too.
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Then you get old and look forward to getting in bed by 8PM.
I guess I never really thought about it. Although now that i have kids that are young, I have to get my kid on a 7:20am bus, which means im up at like 6:45am, every school day, and it sucks. Then I relax for another hour and a half before I start my work at 9 am, lol. I will say the only nice part of starting that early is that they are done by like 2:45 while I am still working until 5 or 6 pm.
Hey what's wrong with going to bed at 8pm
Well, when you get out of your after school activities around 1700-1800 hours, and then have to spend another hour or two, minimum, on homework and projects, and then want to have a little bit of socializing and play squeezed in after the required time spent with family....
Yeah, good luck with that 8pm thing.
My mom don’t get home until 9pm most days from her second job. Sometimes later. My dad was a truck driver so I barely saw him. No one really taught me to take care of myself so I was stuck eating tv dinners most of the time. In that scenario going to sleep at 8pm is damn near impossible.
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Nevermind that I had also been up until 1am having a complete crying breakdown because the printer wouldn't work for whatever assignments. And had only gotten home at 8pm due to extracurriculars running so late.
For what it's worth my health class consisted in no small part of a lady from the administrative office who may or may not of even been qualified as a teacher peddling her shit-ass politics.
Highschool used to start at 7:00 for me. Then I got into college and I could make my own schedule, so I picked a lot of afternoon classes, it was awesome.
That's about how ours went. I usually went to bed around midnight, and usually would fall asleep during some class or another.
I recently found a report card from my senior year, apparently I took AP Economics that year and it was the last class of the day for me. I don't remember doing it at all, but I was getting an A- at the time.
I'm sure those two little personal stories are unrelated.