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[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 156 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I love Trey and Matt but the feud is so enormously stupid.

Family guys stupid gags are dumb and lazy writing, but also quite often fucking hilarious. I'm a guy sitting on my couch watching adult cartoons, I'm not exploring the depth of good writing I'm covered in Dorito crumbs and looking for a good laugh.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 151 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm not even sure it's a real feud. It's two comedy shows making fun of each other. That's hardly a fight.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago

I hope they all get baked together and laugh at the flame wars.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When they put a Starbucks across the street from a Dunkin Donuts, they both perform better

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

But the independent cafe is fucked...

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish there was a gif of him in bed with Satan saying that

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I know, doesn't seem to be, yet.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We need the new version of this gif!

With his cousin the orange tumor?

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

That sounds more like a joke to me than them being serious. Like, I'm sure they do have those feelings at some level, but not enough to vent in an interview. But I'm pretty clueless with the behind the scenes of these shows, maybe that is all they think of Family Guy?

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 41 points 3 days ago

I'm covered in Dorito crumbs and looking for a good laugh

Stealing this for my Tinder profile.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

90% of the stuff on South Park is also dumb and stupid. It's just they occasionally get a chance to make political commentary that their audience won't hate them for, so they go whole hog on it.

[–] KitKatKitCat@piefed.social 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Occasionally? I'd argue they've been making social and political commentary since the shows inception tbh.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes, they've been making commentary, but most of the time it's "Isn't this person dumb? What a dumb person. We should make fun of this dumb person." Occasionally it's people like Trump. Occasionally it's people like Al Gore, and then climate change becomes a joke for twenty years until they make a quiet retraction no one pays attention to. Or it's Paris Hilton or Ben Affleck and it's little more than petty celebrity gossip.

Eh, they did do an episode taking on scientology. That takes guts, because those guys are litigious as fuck. I haven't seen any other show attempt to take them on and I imagine South Park's episode about them provided a lot of insight for people who didn't know just how bizarre their beliefs are.

On the other hand, you're not wrong about them straight-up calling some people "dumb." Their episode explaining Mormons literally sings, "Dumb, dumb, dumb" throughout the story. Yet even that episode was honest - Joseph Smith did claim to use a seerstone in his hat to read off golden plates. (Apparently there was a treasure-hunting fad going on at the time, where people used "seerstones" to try to find hidden things. Joseph Smith already had experience with that, and he scryed for treasure the same way he "read" the golden plates - by putting the stones in his hat and attempting to see through them.) They were also right about Lucy Harris and how Joseph Smith reacted to her. Athough Matt and Trey inserted their opinions through a voiceover song, they told a pretty accurate, educational story.

They do occasionally miss the target terribly (those earlier global warming denials frickin' hurt), but they mock a lot of celebrities for more than being "a dumb person." Kanye's mocked for his massive ego. Bono's mocked because the creators think he's a hypocrite. George Lucas and Steven Spielburg were portrayed raping a storm trooper, as a clear metaphor for how Matt and Trey thought they were violating and destroying their own work.

I don't agree with some of their accessments and choices, but they do tend to attack a lot of other characteristics than just "dumbness."

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you have never been pissed about a episode of south park then you haven't watched it enough. They are pretty good about hitting everyone right in their bias.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was offended right from the start. That's just NOT how an anal probe is installed! And the satellite dish was the wrong size completely.

Sounds like one of the pitfalls of personal experience when watching fiction.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

remember that episode that made fun of people for taking global warming too seriously? not a bad episode, but a bad message.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've seen a lot of things they got wrong. Doesn't mean they don't get it right most of the time.

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[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And they realised it and in later seasons came around.

Didn't lighten up on Gore any, but they did acknowledge man bear pig is real

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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 118 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Seth MacFarlane gets crap for his writing style, but I’m totally a sucker for it. I especially enjoy when he’s on screen. 1000 Ways to Die in the West and The Orville are amazing works from him that I thoroughly enjoy. I really wish he did more live action work.

The Orville is legit just a good sci fi show, but then it's also funny and endearing on top of that. Love it.

Imo, orvile was the best star trek series since DS9 and only "strange new worlds" which they only did due to the success of Orvile has surpassed it. I'm genuinely staggered by how well he did with it.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 27 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I felt like Orville succeeded despite him. I think he's okay but I’ve seen him play himself a thousand times before and idc anymore. If he's writing for it, it’s still good and I really think the rest of the cast is what kept me coming back. #teamgordon

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Orville felt like he wanted to actually make a star trek the next generation clone, and Fox wanted the family guy in space. Because I feel like season 2 really got it. And then fox canned it.

[–] WhoIsTheDrizzle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

100%. Season 2 was peak Orville. Season 3 did not feel as good to me, though.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

i mean the show would literally not exist without him.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

I've never really enjoyed his style of humor, but his dramatic writing is great. The Orville is at its best in its more serious moments and I usually feel like I have to tolerate the comedic elements to get to the good parts.

[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Yeah… I’ve watched all of his stuff but his like… stammering to get a joke out that’s super characteristic of his is particularly grating now. Love everything he’s done but that particular quirk I could do without.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

i like the Orville but 1000 ways to die is among the worst theatrical comedies of the past decade

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Favourite Western after Planet of the Apes

[–] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where does Blazing Saddles fit in? That's one worth watching, too.

Yes I am agree

[–] lemmyknow 3 points 2 days ago

Does he get crap fornhis writing style in general? I thought it was jut Family Guy, with stories that keep getting interrupted by cutaway gags all the time

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The article claims that S8e3 was a response to South Park Manatees but I just rewatched the scene and it's nothing of the sort.

The author claimed that Peter's Family guy humour got more laughs than Quagmire's South Park humor during a Stand Up comic scene.

But that didn't happen! Quagmire introduced the improv show and Peter got laughs with his typical stupidity.

I suspect AI fuckery in the article.

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