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From age and ID restrictions on the Internet, to charging rappers with “terrorism,” the U.K. is demolishing the most basic civil liberties. If we let them, U.S. leaders may be close behind.

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[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 91 points 6 days ago (3 children)

"and america could be next!" they literally have domestic concentration camps in america there is no freedom there

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 points 3 days ago

Yep. They have it backwards. UK is next... in maybe a decade. Could be longer.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

But how nice of the headline to imply such things don't exist while pretending to be shocked about other things

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[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 43 points 6 days ago

That was lost a while ago, but it's nice more people are noticing that it's getting worse.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Pretty much every company that matters decided to go full 1984 censorship and surveillance all at the same time. And the governments are more than happy to play along. UK, US, etc. Pretty much all of "the west"

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

They are paving the way for feudalism to replace liberal democracies,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

[–] MonkeMischief 7 points 6 days ago

Big time.

And thanks for the link! learned a new philosophy tag for the silicon-valley-government-buying-neo-nazi-death-cult.

🌠the more you know (about the enemy) and all that. . .

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully this doesn't devolve into another USA vs UK shit flinging contest. Authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere, Trump and Starmer are both utilising state power to crack down on dissent and opposition. Those of us who are opposed to this shit are on the same side.

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Could? go publicly criticize the Pedo in chief and watch what happens

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The idea that America EVER had free fucking speech is propaganda. There is no such thing, not in the US and not anywhere. Nations have to control their propaganda or they lose their power. Want an example? Just log into your favorite feed-site in another country and look how radically different every post, every comment and every news story is. Our perspective in the US is as cultivated as it is anywhere else.

The only way we would ever have truly free speech in any capacity would be if we had a borderless world, and I don't see that happening as long as we have money and classes.

Short of some alien species descending and absorbing everyone into a hive-mind, this isn't going to change for a thousand years at least.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think it's odd (and pretty terrifying) the U.K. and U.S. have been on such similar and almost coordinated authoritarian tracks over the last few years. It started with a lot of gradual steps and more recently they seem to be ramping things up (which also seems pretty common for authoritarianism/by the time most people notice something weird is happening it's too late).

Both ramping up A.I. to spy on, and control/micromanage their own civilians while refusing regulations or any public accountability for the A.I. they're developing.

April 2024: U.S., U.K. Announce Partnership to Safety Test AI Models

Feb 2025: UK and US refuse to sign international AI declaration

May 2025: Brexit’s Failures Could Foreshadow Trump’s. Just Not in the Way You Might Think.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As someone who immigrated to the UK I can tell you this is a bit of a stretch. I'm not exactly afraid of dying in a hate crime at a traffic stop or ICE agents beating down my door to detain me here.

But yeah, some internet liberties are being steadily revoked. Hardly the same fucking thing as literally fearing for your life each day because of your last name or the color of your skin.

Freedom today for safety tomorrow. That's where it always starts. How far it's allowed to go is TBD, but don't worry, it's for your own good.

[–] Part4@infosec.pub 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We have been on the same track in many respects since Reagan/Thatcher.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago (9 children)

How many whistleblowers and reporters did Bush and Obama charge with the Espionage Act?

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Uh, America had free speech? First I'm hearing about it.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago

If you're wealthy enough, you can do whatever you want.

Freedom™

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

With a president meddling in both universities and media free speech, there is no way to seriously say USA has free speech.
But even before these issues freedom of speech was very challenged in USA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Press_Freedom_Index

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[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

America is already well on its way to lose free speech as well. We have a secret police called "ICE" now, so it's only a matter of time unless the "resistance democrats" finally do their fucking job

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Britain never had free speech and always have been a absolute nanny state. It's a prime example that government overreach does not result in any safety improvements.

[–] nlgranger@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Many people seem to ignore that british legislation is choke full of gag laws and restrictions on pretty fundamental rights.

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[–] obbeel@mander.xyz 12 points 6 days ago

Very information heavy article. I appreciate that.

[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's happening in Britain, thought current government was a good one?

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Labour is centrist and they desperately want to exert more control. English are sheep, so no one will protest daddy government.

[–] teuniac_@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Supposedly centrist. They're curious whether being populist right wing on some issues will win over Reform UK voters. It's just that they're so curious and are doing this so often that they're well on their way into morphing into a right wing party.

so no one will protest daddy government.

Yea this is a problem..

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[–] WiseScorpio@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

What is this 'could be' business?

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