Keep calling me antisemitic for disagreeing with your politics and one day, when you truly cry antisemitism because a nazi is putting you in an oven again, I'll just dismiss it because you made me think that your word is worth nothing.
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An honest critic of Israel directs their criticism at the people and organizations actually worth criticizing. Antisemites, on the other hand, direct it at anything that’s Israeli or Jewish. In your previous comment, you showed no sympathy for an Israeli airline’s office in Paris being vandalized - as if that has anything to do with the war in Gaza. That’s not anti-war activism; it’s blind hatred aimed at people based on their group identity - i.e., racism.
Someone made a graffiti about the genocide. That's it. And everyone is calling that a "barbaric act". Sorry but I'm not gonna play that game. There is an obvious double standard and Israel is exploiting it. Anything, literally anything that causes the tiniest discomfort to them, is barbaric antisemitism, meanwhile, israel is commiting a genocide in Gaza and that's ok because it's "self defense"?
No, sorry. That's not how it works. Someone wrote something in the walls of that airline office, that's all. It wasn't even a racist thing, it was about the fucking genocide they are commiting. Well, maybe stop killing children so people don't call you assassins?
So yeah, I'm not gonna show sympathy towards an airline because someone wrote in a wall to stop a fucking genocide.
You haven’t addressed my point. I’m not debating whether Israel’s actions are above criticism - I’m saying that targeting unrelated Israeli entities, like an airline office in Paris, isn’t legitimate anti-war activism. It’s indiscriminate, identity-based hostility.
You can frame it as “just graffiti” if you want, but that doesn’t change the fact it’s aimed at something with no connection to Gaza. That’s exactly the distinction I was making, and nothing in your reply engages with it.
So basically, you are proving my point. Anything done to israel is antisemitism.
Tell me, should we also remove sanctions to Russia for the Ukraine's war? After all they are targeting companies that are not directly related to the war. It's indiscriminate, identity-based hostility.
Or those are ok because they are not israelian?
You are not really working to change my mind about you being an israel troll, you know?
Sanctions against Russia are a coordinated, state-level pressure tactic aimed at hurting the Russian economy to twist their arm. Everyone acknowledges there’s collateral damage to civilians - the difference is that the economic impact is real, and it has a plausible path to change. If someone were vandalizing the business of a Russian-born German citizen with no involvement in the war, I’d criticize that just the same.
Randomly targeting an Israeli company or civilian abroad that has no connection to the war isn’t the same thing. It’s not part of an organized effort to apply economic pressure, it doesn’t meaningfully weaken the Israeli state, and it has no realistic chance of changing policy. It’s just hostility toward something for being Israeli.
Sure but see? That hostility wasn't there before the genocide started and it'so not because they are jews, since there are many other jews who are not from israel that are not suffering hostility. Yet israelians claim antisemitism, when the reason to get the hostility is not their race or religion but the fact that they are committing a genocide. You are trying to point the attention, like the zionist to antisemitism, when the reality is that people don't hate jews, hate genocidal zionists, which is, again, not the same thing.
Hence my comment about calling everything antisemitism when obviously is not.
You are doing exactly what the article describes: weaponizing antisemitism. And you have done it several times here.
I take your point to be that hostility toward Israelis right now is about opposition to Israeli government actions in Gaza, not about their ethnicity or religion. If that’s what you mean, I get the distinction you’re making.
I’m not saying every action taken against something Israeli is motivated by antisemitism. But it’s also undeniable that some people in the anti-Israel/pro-Palestine crowd are antisemites, and they hide those views behind the broader narrative. Acts of indiscriminate hostility toward anything connected to Israel - even if not motivated by antisemitism - look and function exactly the same as if they were. People should consider the optics, even if their intentions are clear to themselves. That’s the specific distinction I’m talking about, and it’s the one I haven’t seen you address yet.
As I already said, the comment that you went to look for in order to make all this speech, was in a post about how a graffiti was a "barbaric act" or even a "terrorist act" and how ironic it is that they call anything antisemitism when it's very well known that this is not antisemitism but anti-genocide actions.
After that, I said that calling everything antisemitism just makes people start thinking that when everything is antisemitism, nothing is antisemitism.
Last, as I said, people know full well that antisemitism and antizionism are NOT the same thing. What happened here is not antisemitism, it's antizionism. And considering that zionists are just fascist in a different flavour, I consider it morally right to be antizionist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al
El Al is the national carrier of Israel, and is partially government owned / funded. They are an extension of the Israeli government actively commiting a genocide.
And that's called a moral contamination fallacy - the belief that if X is connected to Y, then X must share full moral responsibility for everything Y does.
This kind of vandalism does nothing to hurt the war effort. All it does is damage property, terrorize innocent civilians and alienate the people who would've otherwise been on your side.
It’s a government controlled entity in a country with massive approval for the genocide. Maybe not every worker, but high ups, those with offices in Paris, will be aligned to the state’s stance. You are separating the entity from politics too much in order to claim them separate and feign innocence for the genociders.
Dear Israel:
Antizionism != Antisemetism
This reminds me of the time we often heard people saying "I'm not racist, I'm race realist"
That's so dishonest that I'm starting to believe you are an israel troll.
Zionism and hebraism are separated things. You can be jew and not zionist.
Keep defending genocide.
Your sophistry isn't clever, not is it subtle.