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[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I love how people refer to hamas as if it isnt literally the civil government in gaza

This is like someone saying some guy was a leader of the cia because they did a presentation at a public school, the government run school system.

Even if he had been a literal sergeant in the Palestinian army, if he isnt currently fighting the war, hes not a valid fucking target. Holy shit.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

90+ percent of Israeli October 7 casualties were (ex) IDF soldiers but don't you dare ever bring that up.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And that makes them a legitimate target?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago

If you would apply the same standards which Westerners hold to kill Palestinians to Israelis they would surpass the valid target treshold a hundred times over.

[–] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 7 points 2 days ago

According to Western logic yeah if you apply that consistently. Obviously this is inhumane but that’s Zionist logic.

[–] clonemeagain@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It means they were citizens.. they have mandatory service lol

[–] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 5 points 2 days ago

They can refuse, there’s a new post kinda every day of some Israeli teenagers going to jail because they refuse to be complicit in genocide.

Not every German was a Nazi and not every Israeli is a Zionist I think that’s important to mention, but the majority of Israelis are genocidal maniacs at this point who served in a genocidal colonial army and they’re proud of their service.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And Palestinians are locked in a concentration camp. So some are using their right to violently resist occupation. Palestinians literally joining the armed wing of Hamas is more morally defensible than Israelis being an IDF conscript.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It does negate your '90% of the civilians murdered at a concert were at one point in the past in the IDF' though.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 16 hours ago

It doesn't in any way.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

it sounds foreign and taps directly into american & european xenophobias

[–] burgerchurgarr@lemmus.org 6 points 2 days ago

This is such a tragedy, honestly can’t post this often enough:

Rest in peace. And Western media still repeat the propaganda lie that Anas were a member of Hamas. What angers me the most is the implication of this.

So let’s say being a member of Hamas automatically makes you a legitimate target and thus okay to kill, even you’re a civilian or working e.g. in the health ministry. Almost every Israeli Jewish civilian has served in the IDF, many of them are currently reservists. By that logic, October 7 was not a "terror attack“ because most people killed were associated with the IDF or with the terrorist Israeli government if they work with them or cooperate, hence they were legitimate targets. This can be concluded as we have learned that a certain amount of "collateral damage“ is to be expected, which includes elders and children. Hence, by the logic of the Zionists October 7 was a legitimate military action. If you’re disgusted by my conclusion, well that’s the disgusting logic of the Zionists.

And now to back to the assassination of these journalists, I personally believe even if they’d have been Hamas members or whatever, there’s no justification on earth for extrajudicial executions. They had a right to live and do their job, rest in peace guys you are heroes.

[–] Zorro@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do they mean by 'understands'? That's what's beating me - where's the evidence? Part of the idf supplied bs?

It means nothing, so why keep including that comment?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zorro@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

Exactly....muddies the waters in the public's eye. Some hasbara bs to distract.