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[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 250 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Lemmy political pov: the universe should be free and open source

[–] baked_tea@sh.itjust.works 129 points 11 months ago (9 children)

It specifically needs to run Linux.. also there is a literal war about which distro it should use

[–] Pharmacokinetics@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Debian. It should run debian. We should genocide arch users.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You will never stamp us out btw!

[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

They don't call us the bleeding edge for nothin'

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[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think lemmy has all the mentioned

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 100 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s the algorithms. Except 4chan where that’s just how it do.

[–] RQG@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

4chan was simply where everyone banned for extreme views everywhere else went because there were no rules or close to none.

Now as algorithms of social media sites have been chosen to dictate our daily news cycle, discussion topics and visibility of culture by engagement metrics alone, as are dominated by flashy, extremist content that appeals to our lowest instincts. Before humans curated content by trying to use human reasoning instead of relying on instinct alone. I think we have taken a step backwards in evolution culturally.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 85 points 11 months ago (21 children)

Redditors are communists? News to me.

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 11 months ago

Image from 2021, I was on reddit then, I am a communist. Checks out

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[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 72 points 11 months ago (3 children)

People with extreme views are also more vocal, so that's what you see. That's why social media is bad for you. If gives you a very distorted view of the world. Most people are able to look at politics with nuance.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This, plus everyone is concerned with engagement. If I say a perfectly normal statement on Facebook or X or whatever, no one will care so no one will comment or interact with it. If I say that Jesus wants us to make America white again, even the people who disagree with me will only be boosting my message by commenting.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Jesus wants us to make America white again

I love this. It's so dumb in so many different ways, but I can easily see people unironically saying it.

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[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 52 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (61 children)

Discourse evaporated when the rightwing and Faux "News" declared "compromise" as blasphemy. That's why so many moderate Republicans will still vote along party lines, despite knowing the candidate is batshit crazy. To vote Democrat is to commit suicide to those people.

Edit: was trying to get this comment done before kid woke up from nap and barely made it. Fixed the faux pa.

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[–] Seraph@kbin.social 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The media has tried very hard to normalize extremism.

Funny key then

Ducking autocorrect I meant: Don't let them.

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[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago (30 children)

Enlightened centrist thoughts intensify

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

People even use centralism as a weapon as well though. They push the idea that the correct position in any debate is slap bang in the middle. Sometimes there is a demonstrably correct answer, and sitting in the middle is a bad thing.

But they'll argue to the death that sitting on the fence is the best thing to do in every situation. I've had people claim that the Ukrainians should just negotiate with Russia (assuming that would be even be possible) because that would be the middle option between fighting them and surrendering.

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[–] Lemvi@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Its probably because extremists don't feel comfortable expressing their views in their everyday life, so they do it online instead, where they have some anonymity or at least don't face the same backlash as they would if they were to voice their opinions at work or at a bar or something.

Also, controversial takes get more engagement, which means more ad revenue.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Internet also helps gather these people together.

In the past if you were a "weird person" you would not find too many people that resonated with you and eventually many would just "normalize".
Now doesn't matter what kind of shitty take you have, there are always some group of people who thinks the same and will echoing each other

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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 41 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (20 children)

Social media politics is confirmation bias by design.

A few of my opinions that are less popular here:

  • Unions are not a perfect solution.
  • landlords are not inherantly bad and it's not a "sit back and cash in" type of job.
  • Bridled Capitalism is a better system than the comunism we've tried so far.

I have no desire to debate any of those here. I talk politics with friends and in person and I try to remain skeptical especially of facts that happen to go my way.

[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (7 children)

One factual point: we haven't tried communism, we tried socialism. Communism was more of a faraway ideal.

Not debating substance of the claims, as debate not asked for.

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[–] schema@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Holy strawman. Ironically, by reducing all those platforms to one extremist opinion he is doing exactly the same thing he is whining about.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

It's an exaggeration about the stereotypical opinions from those platforms

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 31 points 11 months ago (17 children)

The more extreme someone's views, the more likely they are to talk about them.

People with moderate views generally avoid talking politics as much as possible.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Plenty of people with moderate views are passionate about politics and love to talk about it. Its just that they talk about boring stuff like policy positions and numbers.

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[–] Ser_Salty@feddit.de 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can tell that this is about pre-Elon Twitter lmao

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (10 children)

I dunno but northern European socialism is looking pretty ok to me lately.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (6 children)

They're voting in anti-immgrant right wing politicians. Same with Germany, Spain, and France

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago (13 children)

That's not a fiscal policy. A country or block of countries can be right about 1 thing and wrong about others.

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[–] drkt@feddit.dk 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Something about a fence and the colour saturation of the grass

Denmark is tearing itself apart, we have a total right-wing government tearing down public infrastructure and institutions. Mere days ago, pensions for lower class workers, which were promised by the last government in 2020, have been cancelled and 60 year-old people who are falling apart have been told to go back to work. 2 years ago we lost a national holiday under the guise of 'the economy' but the 'the economy' was just rich people wanted lower taxes and they got it. Our PM us a US puppet, or at least acts it. Car infrastructure reigns supreme, gets all of the funding. Rail projects are cancelled for being 'too expensive', despite being a fraction of highway expansion projects. Jobcenters (and consequently all people who are too sick to work or work under special circumstances) are being handed over the municipalities who are completely unequipped to handle the burden, and have only so far been doing it because they had to by law and even then did a really shitty job of it. Our entire public healthcare sector is bombed, there is no help to get. If you get cancer, tough luck, roll the dice. GPs generally just don't care and will diagnose you with anything to make you leave. Emergency lines are staffed by old farts who can't speak properly and will tell you that no, actually, it's totally normal for a person of your age (25 then) to spontaneously bleed from the anus; don't worry about it!

A Ukrainian refugee wrote a lengthy blogpost on r/Denmark about how he was met with nothing but contempt and racism at every step of the process here, and the comment section was full of "No; our institutions treat citizens like that, too. Welcome to Denmark."

Can't speak for the others, but Sweden is definitely doing better than us at this point in time, but I am hearing it is also on a similar decline.

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[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

No country in Northern Europe has Socialism. They have a strong social welfare system on top of a capitalist economy. Aka Social Democracy. Not even close to socialism.

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[–] SirStumps@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Lemmy is a combination of Twitter and Reddit.

[–] mina_tie@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

"Communism is inherently racist and homophobic" or "All white people never fail"?

[–] OlPatchy2Eyes@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

True whiteness has never been implemented.

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[–] m4xie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I pictured literal sheep in Halloween masks at first. I thought it was just insane person Facebook.

If I did see a whole flock of sheep in Halloween masks, I would have something to say...

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[–] Four_lights77@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We’re here…we just don’t shout as much the others. We’re probably reading a book quietly in the other room.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Actually, Communism has never existed.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Primitive communism has, just not industrial or post industrial.

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