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Make Lemmy thrive, Privacy & Censorship. (programming.dev)
submitted 10 months ago by Rick_C137@programming.dev to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/6788379

Hi,

As we might all know ( Early adopter of Lemmy ). Lemmy has been (also) made to give an alternative to the censor kingdom of Reddit ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy_(software)

And further more Lemmy is fLOSS ๐Ÿ˜

Great ! but watch out ! we don't want that Lemmy take the same path as Reddit did ! ( hopefully this is limited as it run as a ~Federated model )

Anyways, I believe to avoid censorship and jeopardize users privacy the following should be considered by Instance admins and moderators.

  • Avoid as possible a mandatory email to register Doing so is not reducing spam or whatever you're afraid ! It's limiting users to create account that preserve their anonymity ! If you don't know why anonymity is important I'll suggest you to dig this website to start with https://www.laquadrature.net/en/support/#chiffrement BTW if I couldn't be anonymous, I wouldn't write any post on Lemmy, as I'm not living in a free country !! Look on other instances some admin have found clever way to circumvent bots without the need of an email.

  • Also Lemmy don't require too much of moderation ! as any user can use the block feature in their options so you should not censor content in behave of others !

If the freedom of expression is limited to the ideas that we like, it is not freedom of expression. Noam Chomsky.

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[โ€“] Emperor@feddit.uk 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Avoid as possible a mandatory email to register Doing so is not reducing spam

Yes it does.

so you should not censor content in behave of others !

You are just lucky you don't see the worst of it. Remove any kind of checks on users and stop moderating and you would be overrun in CASM, porn, gore and trolls. The beauty of Lemmy is that you can spin up an absolute free speech instance and give it a go yourself. If it gets to a reasonable size it will descend into a hellhole.

[โ€“] Dirk@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

you would be overrun in CASM, porn, gore and trolls.

I remember a few years ago when Reddit fucked up for the first time there was the now-defunct voat.co. I checked that out and the first thing I've ever seen on that site was a questionable NSFW drawing of an anime character that is underage by canon on the front page.

I did not dig deeper.

[โ€“] netburnr@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

How many different times are you going to post this, I've counted at least 6.

[โ€“] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Also Lemmy don't require too much of moderation ! as any user can use the block feature in their options removed externally hosted image so you should not censor content in behave of others !

way too vague. there is no such thing as absolute free speech. nowhere, not on the internet or in real life.

some of reddit's actions are very much justified like banning r/jailbait r/watchpeopledie r/TheDonald. Others were clearly banned because it criticized capitalist status quo such as r/chapotraphouse

[โ€“] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

there is no such thing as absolute free speech

The problem with free speech is that sooner or later it becomes an alt-right echo chamber or a source for barely not legal NSFW content. So every "public" instance needs to have some strict rules on certain topics and also needs to enforce that rules.

If someone wants to publish content without that content being removed due to policy violations one needs to set up an own instance. They then can post whatever they like but have to accept that other instances defederate their instance. You have the right of free speech, but you don't have the right to have your speech being heard by everyone.

such as [...]

I know at least one instance that is not defederated (for whatever reason) but results in a moderator removing the post when mentioning it. Which is fine, I've never seen anything good coming from that instance.

[โ€“] Nemo@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

CTH was banished for brigading, which was justified, as they were brigading, and brigading makes fora worse

[โ€“] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

uh huh r/FULLCOMMUNISM, r/MoreTankieChapo, r/GenZedong

also

Reddit banned about 2,000 subreddits on Monday, most notably r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse, in a move the platform said was intended to crack down on online communities that "promote hate."

In a Reddit post, CEO Steve Huffman said the decision comes after discussions about how the platform can "[close] the gap between our values and our policies to explicitly address hate."

sure, brigading, sure.

[โ€“] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The irony of this post is that you deserve to be blocked, for spamming this in irrelevant communities...

[โ€“] GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Based on the quality of these tips it wouldnโ€™t be much of a loss anyway

[โ€“] Nemo@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

Blocking and moderation are very different. If a user has one bad day and is getting belligerent, that's a case for moderation, not blocking them forever.