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If 100 homeless people were given $750 per month for a year, no questions asked, what would they spend it on?

That question was at the core of a controlled study conducted by a San Francisco-based nonprofit and the USC Suzanne Dworak-Peck School of Social Work.

The results were so promising that the researchers decided to publish results after only six months. The answer: food, 36.6%; housing, 19.5%; transportation, 12.7%; clothing, 11.5%; and healthcare, 6.2%, leaving only 13.6% uncategorized.

Those who got the stipend were less likely to be unsheltered after six months and able to meet more of their basic needs than a control group that got no money, and half as likely as the control group to have an episode of being unsheltered.

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20231221131158/https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-19/750-a-month-no-questions-asked-improved-the-lives-of-homeless-people

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 144 points 6 months ago

$750 a month would improve the lives of plenty of people who aren't homeless too. Up to and including the middle class.

But I suppose a UBI is a non-starter everywhere in the U.S. but Alaska.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

You want universal anything it’s an uphill battle because of the cattle shouting about the cost or some nonsense.

[-] deft@ttrpg.network 13 points 6 months ago

Those who will make more money with UBI will just be mad they get taxed slightly more.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 months ago

Our corporate oligarchs already pitch a fit about collective bargaining, universal healthcare, and adjusting minimum wage to match inflation. I can't imagine they'd react well to a universal basic income except by raping the fading middle class even more.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago

The universal healthcare one baffles me because it would save businesses money and increase employee retention. But corporations still fight against it.

[-] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 37 points 6 months ago

Having healthcare tied to your employer is both a way for companies to pay less while offering more benefits to entice new workers and also keep workers from fighting too hard for their own rights because now maintaining a job is directly related to health. If we had universal healthcare, companies would have to compete more directly on wage and that would cost them more. Providing healthcare, while negotiating for deals for said healthcare means they can say that they are providing more benefits than they actually pay for.

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[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 116 points 6 months ago

Almost like the 1% are stealing from each and every one of us. With a fraction of their profits each one of us would live a better life.

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 85 points 6 months ago

Giving people money improves their quality of life?

Who would have guessed?

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 82 points 6 months ago

“What can we do to help these people whose problem is that they don’t have money?”

“Give them money?”

“That’s just crazy enough to work!”

[-] waz@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

Wait a sec. You're telling me that giving money to people that don't have money helps them do things that require money?! I'm shocked.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Those who got the stipend were less likely to be unsheltered after six months and able to meet more of their basic needs than a control group that got no money, and half as likely as the control group to have an episode of being unsheltered.

I feel extremely bad for the control group.

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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 57 points 6 months ago

$750 a month is like $9000 a year.

I spend $500 on groceries!

I think this program would help a lot in so many ways and I hope it passes.

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[-] ares35@kbin.social 43 points 6 months ago

$750 a month would be life altering for me.

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 33 points 6 months ago

All these UBI experiments ever seem to demonstrate is the "BI" part.

But the part that needs to be demonstrated, IMHO, is the "U".

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

Well we can't do that until we do that. And shitting on the experiments means we'll never do the Universal part.

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[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

Now watch how out of touch conservatives are when they start claiming that these people are living in luxury. It's a great project and I'm not trying to demerit the people in charge, but $750 doesn't go far at all in a place like San Francisco

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Remember when they flipped their shit over obama phones? Like, poor people were getting free or low cost cell phones. The horror! What's next, food stamp steaks? What? You mean food stamps aren't limited to gruel and powdered milk?

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[-] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 months ago

On 750 a month I could live in the forest somewhere and do occasional supply runs to replenish my tree fort. Or do a shit ton of drugs but either way I'd be pretty happy.

[-] Kushia@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Tbh as long as you weren't hurting anyone, putting others in danger and were happy I personally wouldn't give a toss what you did with your money even if that came from taxes I paid. Better this then the current homeless situation.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

Grow shrooms; do both.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

There's also been a lot of success with providing housing to the homeless. When they have stability, they use it to create a better life for themselves, and that translates to lower costs in terms of enforcement, ER visits, legal aid, and incarceration.

The US doesn't provide for this in federal policy because we like our laws to reflect the cruelty and malice we have in our hearts for perceived undesirables.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

If you are mentally ill or had a streak of bad luck, it's your own fault. Be smart and get born rich like almost every rich person does. My God why are people so stupid?
/s

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[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

How did they collect data on what these homeless people were spending the money on? Sounds like some questions were asked after all...

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago

They asked the questions afterwards...

[-] Pogbom@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Exactly, they gave it to them and said "do whatever you want with it" then just checked what they did later.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 months ago

Receipts probably

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[-] anonymous222@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

750$ a month changed the lives of people that had nothing? Yeah, right. Obviously!

[-] TheHotze@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Studies that test obvious expectations are actually super important. Sometimes the results are not what you expect, and the rest of the time, you have a study to point to whenever someone tries to say there's no evidence of that outcome.

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[-] pound_heap@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

Well, there is an opinion that homeless people would use all money for booze, tobacco and drugs, etc. A study like this helps to contradict such opinion.

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

One red flag here is that they don't mention how they chose whom to give the stipend to.

That being said I think its a great idea and correlates with other studies that show that money is the best thing you can offer someone who's struggling. Not food, not shelter, money.

I'm not an American but this will be tough to sell as you guys are notorious for porking away public funds (e.g. covid payouts) so this is much more complex than the article implies.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 12 points 6 months ago

easiest way to avoid misuse is to give it to all. if your doing alright you will pay more tax equal to what you get, if your struggling it will be a boost, if your in mills/bills club you will pay more than your getting. Anyone who falls to the struggling level would have it immediately though with no paperwork or offices to go to and less bureaucracy to pay for (have to add this for the folks who don't see why its helps them if they are not getting a net gain)

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