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The European Union wants elderly people (70+) to undergo medical tests from now on to prove that they are still capable of driving a car every five years. However, the proposal has been met with a lot of criticism.

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[โ€“] MaxPower@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Very good. As a german, I'd welcome this.

However, expect heavy pushback from the German automotive industry. They are for Germany what the NRA and weapons manufacturer lobby is to the US.

[โ€“] ElmarsonTheThird@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If a german pensioneer can't drive a german car with more than 250 kph on the german Autobahn from north to south, west to east: how can we have EINIGKEIT UND RECHT UND FREIHEIT?

/s

[โ€“] Ravi@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

You are missing this: !!!1111

[โ€“] JVT038@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does the German automotive industry also exercise immense power and influence in both politics and society?

[โ€“] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Germany is unbelievably car-centric for a developed country. It's also nicely planned, so most of the time you can survive pretty well without a car, but car is still the king here

[โ€“] Naeron@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That's a solid "Yes, definitely!"

[โ€“] jannis@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Germany has more cars per capita than the US and Germany is the only country without a speedlimit on motorways. So yes, they definitely do

[โ€“] Jomn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This would be great. We should also require all drivers to pass small exams every ~10 years in order to assert that they are up to date with new laws and new types of infrastructure.

[โ€“] Loui@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

If they would do that we would finally get a strong lobby for decent public transport!

[โ€“] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a pretty serious concern here about the mobility and independence of the elderly... but that can't be put over and above public safety. I see either very anxious and hesitant, or completely off with the fairies and uncaring elderly drivers on a frequent basis.

They wouldn't get anywhere near a licence if they had to demonstrate their competence even once more, let alone semi-regularly.

[โ€“] ChrystalBlurbs@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Mobility for the eldery IS important but IMHO there should be affordable, easy accessible options without the use of a personal vehicle. Otherwise it get's harder and harder for the eldery to participate in social activities which are beneficiary to mental health and prevent early symptoms of Alzheimers disease.

[โ€“] Ugetsu@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Good Idea. It's widely accepted that cognitive capabilities can decline rapidly with old age. It simply makes no sense that a person that needs 8 tries and 10 minutes to change the station on their TV is still allowed to operate a two ton death machine without any checks in place.

The important part here is to make it so that it ONLY "catches" declined driving capabilities and is not also biased in terms of social and financial status or maybe if you're an immigrant or something.

[โ€“] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish we could test for cognitive ability for voting access over 70.

[โ€“] ElmarsonTheThird@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The german satire party DIE PARTEI wanted to implement a highest voting age. If you can't vote the first 18 years of your life, you shouldn't be able to vote the final 18 years.

[โ€“] Simbomba@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I seriously hoped it would have been implemented The older folks seem to ruin germany more the older they get

[โ€“] Akasazh@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How to determine when the last 18 start, though?

[โ€“] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well insurance companies have all the models necessary for that. It's actually called actuary and it's a field of mathematics.

Or, average national lifespan

[โ€“] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

I've been saying the same thing for years. We should revoke voting status 18y from whatever the national average lifespan. That'll never happen, though.