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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago

I used to have strong opinions about this, but then I realised that I'm not trans, I'm not female, I'm not an athlete, and to be completely honest, I couldn't care less about women's sports. And judging by the fact that a women's premier league football ticket costs about £5 and the stadiums are mostly empty, most other people don't care either. Certainly less than seem to care about the sanctity of women's sports.

It's probably going to be more complex than a blanket yes or no, and will involve individual sports bodies doing things on a case-by-case basis.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Wait I thought people could be trans without medical treatments and counseling because gender identity is a construct and not reliant on one's secondary or primary sex characteristics but rather reliant on their decision to identify with a gender they were not assigned at birth. Like I get it is the onion, but I thought people who think you have to have gender dysphoria or medically transition are called "transmedicalists," and much like "terf" I'm fairly sure "transmedicalist" isn't a compliment.

I'm not trans though so I could be wrong, but this is how it was clearly described to me by a nonbinary individual, a trans man, and a trans woman, all of whom I am friends with and one of whom I was dating at the time, so if I misunderstand so do they, I didn't make it up myself.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My point of view is that if it was just a decision for someone that'd be alright and should be supported nonetheless. That being said I've never met someone who is trans and claims it was a choice.

If it's 'just' a construct then it is a fundamental one that occurs at a very young age and you can't just simply change that, so it's not really a choice. Like the trunk of a tree.

Also there are many reasons not to transition medically. There are many risks involved and requires considerable resources. For example getting facial hair removed can take 30 sessions, so even if it's free it costs you a lot of time.

Imagine you woke up in the wrong body tomorrow. Sure, you want to go back to the right body, but you might be OK with it as long as the people around you just see you for who you are. This can be done with a social transition, some clothing and makeup.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (13 children)

Unpopular opinion (on Lemmy and coming from a guy who doesn’t have an issue with trans people): Transpeople are people too and aren't going to just go die in a ditch because the thought of losing to one makes you upset.

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