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[–] appel@lemmy.ml 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I switched back to Firefox a few months ago due to the incoming Manifest v3 debacle and I'm glad I did, it's an excellent browser.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's really come a long way in the past few years. It used to be so slow when Chrome came in to take over

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

That perceived slowness comparison lasted less than a year!

[–] sep@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agree compleatly. Been using firefox since it was called mosaic

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I didn't know this was a phase of it's existence

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Yeah it went Mosaic, Netscape, Firefox iirc.

Edit: And I think Netscape was a full rewrite as mosaic was owned by the university it was originally coded in, again iirc. That was a LONG time ago.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Netscape was Firefox? Somehow I never learned that. I fuckin loved the little space animation when a page was loading.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's because it's not true. Firefox was first called firebird for a brief time... Otherwise its most closely related to the Mozilla browser... Netscape and mosaic aren't even related to each other... I don't know what this guy is smoking.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Netscape was my first browser on the beige apple desktops in the elementary school computer lab. I knew about it going on to become Firefox but not of anything before that. I still miss some aspects of the internet of that time.

[–] GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

So long ago that I had to go and use on a Sun workstation in the machine room because it wasn't available for windows yet!

[–] kspatlas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Mosaic, Netscape, Mozilla, Firefox

[–] marker2002@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Wow. That's some blast from the past.

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[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's a red panda isn't it?

[–] shmanio@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From their "Firefox name FAQ":

A "Firefox" is another name for the red panda.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Fuck me, I love learning, thanks for that.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm mainly using Firefox on my devices and have zero regrets.

I also enjoyed Vivaldi over the other chromium browsers. Still sticking with FF for now. The only issues I've had are Ms teams not loading, though km assuming that's related to 3rd party cookies ( even though o365 outlook works fine ).

MSteams is a dumpster fire in and of itself though. Even on my Windows pc it crashes when sharing my screen.

[–] original_reader@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I switched mostly too. Cannot say that I have zero regrets, but FF is mostly up to what I need it to be. And where it isn't, there's Vivaldi.

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[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I switched back to Firefox maybe 9 or 10 months ago after using opera gx for a while. Firefox had been great, and I love that they keep fighting the good fight, so to speak.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago
[–] miridius@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

These are pretty terrible arguments.

  1. Google is a primarily advertising based company yes, but Apple and Microsoft aren't
  2. You can't compare chromium to IE - chromium is open source, and also it's actually good
[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Chromium being open source actually means jack shit. It's controlled by Google, one singular entity whose only desire is to maximise their iron grip on the internet to squeeze as much ad revenue as they can.

This isn't hyperbole, look at the recent WEI stuff or manifest v3 crap. Time and again, these corporations have showed that they just don't give a shit about the free and open internet.

Which leads to the first point, (Microsoft does seem to be moving pretty heavily into advertising though with all the bs in windows 11), you absolutely can not in good conscience use a big tech product with the argument that they're not an ad company. It's not just the ads which is the issue here. And the problem is sooner or later they'll realise they've a trove of monetisable data, so might as well do something with it. And then we'll have no choice because there will be no free and open alternatives left

[–] chocolatine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The issue is the rendering engine monopoly. Apple and Microsoft browsers as well as chromium all use chrome rendering engine making them basically the same browser under the hood.

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[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I'm on firefox and I love it, but developing sites for chrome...

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Any Alternative to Brave? I have FF as primary browser but for some websites which tends to break on FF, I would like to use something non-Chrome/Brave on Windows.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Librewolf sounds like Brave, but built on top of Firefox. It also doesn't spam you with stupid ads like Brave does.

[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 5 points 2 years ago

But my alt should be Chromium based for the weird cases.

[–] crsu@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Librewolf is better I think. It's pretty much a privacy hardened Firefox with the telemetry taken out. No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

No odd crypto scheme like Brave either.

That's a great point

[–] shadowspirit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

FF is primary but started using Vivaldi as my chromium based browser.. I'm definitely not nerd level privacy geek but it hits all my check boxes for configuration, customization, and ease of use.

[–] Dougtron007@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I keep chromium as a secondary if something breaks on Firefox. It’s the foundation of chrome without all the silly Google shit.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Dougtron007@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks, this is what I’m looking for.

[–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use edge for the edge case when websites don't work after changing the user agent

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[–] MiddledAgedGuy@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

As far as non-Chrome goes, there's only two other modern browser engines. Webkit which is Apple stuff, and Gecko which is Firefox. So I don't believe so, no.

[–] Mars@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

If the site breaks on Firefox, probably it only works in chrome based, so I’d say just use ungoogled-chromium.

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

How do you switch to Firefox if you use Firefox?

[–] gsf@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] DirtyCNC@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If you're reading this and not using Firefox, do yourself a favor and don't wait until 2024 to switch.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

oh cool my favorite thread again

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Also librewolf, a more open version of FF without the shit like Pocket

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Why wait until 2024 to switch when you can switch RIGHT NOW?

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