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    submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

    They work better in Linux than Windows, not to mention backwards compatibility.

    EDIT: I may be wrong about newest printer models, 2020 and above.

    EDIT2: Hardware problems are an entirely different issue.

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    [–] juli@programming.dev 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Huh? Linux and printers are the best

    [–] UnityDevice@startrek.website 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    My hp printer has worked perfectly and reliably with CUPS for years now. Just turn it on and print, works every time.
    Open source print drivers, baby! I still hate CUPS though.

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    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

    This wasn't true *not so long ago.

    *Depends on your definition of long 🤷.

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    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    CUPS is absolutely amazing compared to windows printer drivers which had whole ass critical CVEs several times already.

    Even Apple uses CUPS

    [–] aard@kyu.de 20 points 10 months ago

    CUPS is horrible, and also had its share of critical vulnerabilities. It is just better than the LPD mess we had before.

    It is not a Linux specific thing - it was developed when there still were a lot of UNIX variants around. Apple was a very early contributor, and had quite a bit of influence in making it successful.

    [–] c10l@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    It’s no surprise Apple uses CUPS. They wrote it, after all.

    Edit: TIL Apple didn’t write CUPS themselves but they bought the company that did it pretty early in the game. Here’s a LWN article from the time, exposing some of the worries that came with the news of the acquisition: https://lwn.net/Articles/242020/

    [–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    With cups it's pretty much painless on linux form me, though some distros have a very restrictive firewall configuration out of the box, so you have to whitelist it before using. Not too complicated, but can be very frustrating for new users who never touched a firewall before.

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    [–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Back in the day you'd just cat file.txt > /dev/lp0 and it would work. Mostly.

    [–] gmtom@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    A Linux meme that's somewhat critical of Linux?

    I wonder what the comments will be like....

    [–] Famko@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

    It's not really critical of Linux, it's criticising those stupid fucking printers in general

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    [–] Galds@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    My printer used to integrate perfectly with windows 11. I was using some Ancient driver I found on some internet archive. windows updater found a new drive, now it's a mess of different UIs to print or scan shit

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    There is a way to disable driver updates via Windows update.

    Do a rollback on the driver, should bring back the old driver.

    [–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Brother printer initialised in a couple of clicks in Arch, took 10 minutes to do it in Windows.

    [–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I have been installing Arch for the last 2 years, so windows 10 min duration is significantly faster

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    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

    Printers are pretty plug'n'play these days, at least until something technical goes wrong. Getting exactly what you want on paper can be pretty tough, though. I wrote an entire printing stack from scratch for an embedded system, but that was for a very specific set of models from a single manufacturer. It actually worked every time, especially when there were errors and warnings, but it took actual effort.

    [–] Sirico@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Brothers linux script still working great for me and my aging printers

    [–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

    +1 to brother printers

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    [–] mvirts@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    The printers are probably running Linux too.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

    Nope, *BSD... most of them.

    [–] gianmarco@feddit.it 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Here's a better meme.

    HP printers:

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    [–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    I would only think them to work better on Linux because the software you're using isn't made by the printer company. Their software sucks. The hardware sucks, too. They're made to be shit because a perfect printer isn't profitable.

    [–] monsieur_jean@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Since I've moved in South East Asia, I have discovered that:

    • Almost every single printer that exists has a conversion kit available on Taobao to use big ink bottles
    • There's not a single firmware that hasn't been hacked, nor a single part that hasn't been cloned
    • Therefore, most printer manufacturers have a specific line of durable products that allows the use of third party ink because if they don't, other people will bank of their product maintenance and they won't sell much.

    The only reason we in developped country get scammed like we are, is because of IP laws and governments that allow manufacturers to abuse them with no consequences at the expense of the customers (and the planet).

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    [–] variants@possumpat.io 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    My printer has to go through like 5 power cycles for it to even detect its ink cartridges. I guess thats what i get for taking the ewaste printer from the office

    [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Atleast it was free? I did the same thing, took office salvage. I’ll be replacing it soon with a laser printer.

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    [–] brokenlcd@feddit.it 9 points 10 months ago

    On linux i was able to setup my hp laserjet no problem, cups recognised it just fine; the problem is with the integrated scanner, SANE sees that there is some sort of scanner but fails to talk to it, i have windows 10 installed on a usb key essentially only to use the scanner

    [–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Those edits really encapsulate the Lemmy experience LMAO

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    [–] orvorn@slrpnk.net 8 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I do freelance sysadmin work and Macs are actually the hardest to mass deploy printer configurations to.

    [–] cm0002@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

    Macs are usually the hardest to do of any sort of enterprise management. But printers? Holy fuck, its a nightmare lmao

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    [–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Has anyone had luck or experience with using IPP for printing from Linux? A standard networking protocol for printing sounds like it should make a lot of these problems mute.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

    Works as intended usually.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

    Yep, works OK on one of my setups at work.

    [–] Winter8593@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

    Yeah I switched to LMDE a couple months ago and I plugged in my printer for the first time but long ago. I was worried it wouldn't work at first but it started printing right away!

    [–] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

    I had to start the scanner tool from the command line, I felt like a hacker but it did usually work on Linux.

    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    lp0 is still on fire tho...

    [–] lp0_on_fire@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] kuneho@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

    you sir, are fire

    [–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Stop printing.

    Honestly who NEEDS a printer anymore? We've moved on from printing out driving directions from MapQuest and burning our own DVD collections. We should ditch home printers and only use online printing services whenever you want something physical so it's made nicely by someone who knows what they're doing.

    [–] Emerald@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Many people still use printers.

    [–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, he was basically telling them to stop, or maybe more generally he was telling them to take a look at whether they really need to print things.

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    [–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I've found Mac OS is by far the best OS for getting printers to work tbh

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    OSX and Linux both use the Common Unix Printing System. It works more or less the same on both systems.

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    shhhhhh.... they need to justify the price tag...

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    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    It used zeroconf/bonjur out of the box when no one else used it (or had to do some serious configs in order to get it working), that's why. And, of course, since it's the second most used OS other than Windows, printer manufacturers configured avahi/zeroconf/bonjur out of the box on their printers.

    [–] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Hardware problems are an entirely different issue.

    Literally the biggest issue

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    [–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    No joke, printing is like the #1 thing I like most about switching from Windows to Linux. I still get errors about the bypass tray every time I try to print from Windows. I'M NOT USING THE BYPASS TRAY!

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    [–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I used to have a MacBook Pro and the printer worked perfectly when I printed from it, whereas my windows PC always had issues.

    [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

    I had the opposite experience, it even works with my Steam Deck.

    Printers are weird..

    [–] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 10 months ago

    I stopped using paper and suddenly my printer problems went away

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