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    submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
     

    They work better in Linux than Windows, not to mention backwards compatibility.

    EDIT: I may be wrong about newest printer models, 2020 and above.

    EDIT2: Hardware problems are an entirely different issue.

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    [–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

    I never had any problems printing or scanning on Linux. Meanwhile my dad's PC bluescreens from opening the driver UI.

    [–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago

    Printers suck so bad that are responsible of starting free software (well part of it). Thanks printers for sucking bad.

    Context:

    https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/rms-nyu-2001-transcript.txt

    https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.en.html

    [–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I got an amazing old HP office laser jet, a 1320n. Would Linux be able to print from it relatively easily? I had to work pretty hard to get it on W10.

    [–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

    You can always try a Mint LiveUSB

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    [–] the_q@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    On Pop my networked printers were just there without me needing to do anything.

    [–] sysadmin420@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

    Same I've had great luck with pop, it found my brother color laser and even installed my hp latex 260. I'd never print to that directly though.

    [–] Artyom@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    That was the last thing that kept me dual booting. Eventually, I realized that my printer wasn't worth using on any OS so I wasn't losing anything by going all-in.

    [–] mdd@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

    WTF? Is this about using inkjets on WiFi?

    [–] westyvw@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    My scanner/printer works flawlessly ij Linux. It's fantastic. I cannot get it to work in windows, but no big deal I rarely use windows anyways.

    But it is amusing that it simply will not work in windows.

    And this printer is from 2023.

    [–] droans@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Set up a CUPS server and it'll work fine with Windows too.

    Printers are a massive headache on both. But at least with CUPS it's only a massive headache once.

    [–] westyvw@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I could, but you would think their own driver would work!

    Not a pain on Linux at all. Printing is a breeze. As is scanning. Go figure.

    [–] droans@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

    It always comes down to the vendor and driver.

    On Linux, I had to go through a dozen different drivers and just as many driver versions before I found the one that worked with my printer. For Windows, it worked immediately.

    With my old printer, though, it was the opposite experience. Took forever to get it working on Windows but Linux got it immediately.

    You'd think by now, with the dozen different printing standards that exist, we'd have some sort of plug and play driver that could work with every printer.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

    Maybe it's IPP only, have you tried that?

    [–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Just don't buy HP/Epson/Canon.

    Buy a Brother Laserprinter, and never worry again for the rest of your life.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Trouble is, no parts for Brother over here 😔. HP has the market here and parts for them are dirt cheap.

    Sure, I can order from AliExpress, but it'll take months to arrive.

    [–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I swear my 3d printer is more reliable than my paper printer.

    [–] EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    At least if my 3d printer breaks I can fix it.

    [–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 1 points 10 months ago

    I am wondering why there is no open framework for laser printing.

    There are a few parts that would have to be made out of sheet metal. The sides could be stamped for the same pattern. You then need a back and a cross section. One could theoretically make them from ABS, but ABS gets brittle with heat and the sides will shatter.

    One side of the printer is dedicated to running an ARM SOC. I'm not sure if the Arduino is up to the task, but it will need to control 3 motors, initiate a heating sequence, start a rasterizing laser, interpret a print job, communicate over network and USB, and monitor a bunch of sensors.

    The hardest parts will be obtaining print cartridges, rollers, and fusers. Designing a standard to run off a certain vendor's hardware will be a pile of issues, and nobody will just start manufacturing hardware for a handful of hobbyist printers.

    Everything else is 3d printing, springs, and screws.

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