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[–] DarkWasp@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

“Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.“

[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

How the fuck did Harvard students act so stupid and give out their info like that? I thought they were like the smartest people in the US. 🤔

[–] TesterJ@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Most Harvard students are still just 18-22 year old "kids". Think of how dumb/naive you were at that age.

[–] Captain_Nipples@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Try telling that to a 18-22 yr old. You think you know everything at that age. Then you get older and realize no one knows any fucking thing

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

To be fair, when you're at that age and come into contact with dozens of "adults" that never mentally grew past 12, you're bound to think you're "very smart".

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago

There’s a reason second-year students are called sophomores. It’s a compound with the same roots as “sophisticated” and “moron”. It literally means “learned idiot”. It’s referring to the students who have a year of schooling under their belt, and think that they understand everything about the world. It’s basically referring to the Dunning-Krueger Effect, where people who know very little about something are the most likely to overestimate their knowledge on the topic.

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[–] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh don't worry, I'm still in that age range, I guess I'll find out how dumb I am in a few years from now. 😅

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[–] BornVolcano@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

As a 21 year old I would be offended but then I remember I just admitted my exact age on the internet

[–] cyanarchy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Nah, it's just the kids of the wealthiest people and a handful of diversity admissions.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is still I think the most telling glimpse into who the "ZUCK" really is. Looking at what meta has become, how it has operated... No matter how professional and respectable he acts.

This is who he really is.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I don't it's a fair assessment - dude was just a kid.

I've watched some podcasts and interviews and I think he's a much more complex of a person. I do genuinely think he's thinks he's doing good and I do think that Meta stuff is a net benefit to the humanity.

Even if you hate Facebook it brought people together in so many places, especially if you consider developing world.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Doing good does not absolve you of having done evil.

Zuck has utterly failed in preventing facebook from doing clear, preventable, harm.

I don't get to walk free, no matter how many homeless people I feed, if I kill one.

The same should go for corporations. If they do evil, once, they should done. Not fined. There is no math which makes the bad that facebook does, necessary to achieve the good it does.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I do genuinely think he’s thinks he’s doing good and I do think that Meta stuff is a net benefit to the humanity.

The problem I see is that you've bought into his lie. He might "sound" genuine in thinking he's done good, much like Bill Gates sounds genuine when he talks about his philantropic shenanigans. It's all an act.

The only net benefit I see off FB/Meta is that it taught us how dangerous and shitty a centralized internet is.

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[–] mokoshark69@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!

[–] mnstrspeed@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (6 children)

But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive

Not defending Meta, just curious

[–] clara@feddit.uk 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

this is why

there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge

(edited to include "the blogpost", link here)

[–] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Interesting and I'd say you're right. If you were to see a mass adoption of the fediverse (such as Twitter imploding and mastadon becoming the replacement) there would be an immediate attempt by the big tech players to gain control of it in some way. And this is exactly how they would try to do it.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What’s the alternative? They go with a non activity pub system and woo away all our users anyway?

[–] clara@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago

realistically, yes :(

opinion time: not everything has to be about fast/unsustainable growth, in the pursuit of profit. i would prefer that the fediverse grows organically, and entices quality users, posters and commenters to join based on the merits of the service, and not on it's access to inflated VC budgets, huge advertising campaigns, and exploitation of a first-mover advantage.

facebook/meta will slay us, because we are a threat to it's profit model. why are we even contemplating negotiations with a tiger while we have our head in it's mouth? it beggars belief...

[–] lich_hegemon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

If people want to crawl back into Meta's clutches I'm not going to stop them. Don't give the one nice thing we have to a corporation that only wants to exploit us.

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[–] graphite@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

No. We don't. The more hands they have in the fediverse pie, the more influence they have over it. The more influence they have, the more control. The more control, the more at the whim of their decisions you are. The more at the whim of their decisions, the more power they have over you.

This should be common sense at this point.

[–] tatertime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't see how it would be possible to stop them to be honest.

[–] graphite@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

You may be right - perhaps it's inevitable, one way or another. I don't know.

I'm passive at this point.

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[–] cstine@lemmy.uncomfortable.business 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Data this app collects: yes.

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[–] Mostly_Harmless@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Seems reasonable. Where do I put in my social security number and mother's maiden name?

[–] Chipthemonk@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

You can also include your passport ID and bank information in the “extra notes” field. Thanks for all your data! 🙏

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Insert the probe and we'll get all that for you.

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[–] PixelOfLife@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Crazy thought, but people don't need Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, any Twitter replacement, etc. I.e. ya'll don't need 'social media'.

[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You do know that Lemmy counts as social media too, right?

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Don't allow Zuck and the billionaire anti-democracy tech bros into Federation.

[–] AnonTwo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Isn't that just...everything?

Like is there anything they aren't requesting?

[–] nOvA_NoVa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"sensitive information" I think...a good chunk of this is already sensitive information what else do you want T.T

[–] binkbankbonk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Here's the definition as defined by apples store requirements:

Sensitive Info Such as racial or ethnic data, sexual orientation, pregnancy or childbirth information, disability, religious or philosophical beliefs, trade union membership, political opinion, genetic information, or biometric data

src: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/app-privacy-details/

My guess is they will probably ask for your gender or face scan etc.

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[–] ImperialATAT@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That seems reasonable. I think I’ll throw in my social security number and DNA sample for good measure… just in case they need it.

[–] ultimate_question@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Absolutely laughable that all these corporate dumbasses are tripping over themselves to explain why their platform is more user friendly but even with near unlimited resources to build a decent product Meta et al still can't figure out a way to justify their existence without quantifying and selling their users' private behaviors

[–] hydra@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sadly people will still jump there. It will eventually overtake Mastodon in numbers because people are dependent on the convenience of walled gardens.

[–] meldroc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have a request to any mods/admins/instance owners reading this:

You might get some mileage by putting sticky posts up, ideally in as many communities as possible, warning users about using Meta's app. Make it so every time a Meta user comes and checks us out, they're reminded, over and over, that Meta is spying on them. Repetition gets the message into people's brains!

"Did you know Meta's app watches and times your doomscrolling, and phones home to Meta to tell them which stories caught your eye? It records everything you type, even what you go back and delete, and sends that home to Big Brother. Consider using a spyware-free app, here's where you can get them..."

[–] Zap@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

To this day I have refused to download messenger for mobile since "needing it" is totally bullshit since you can just hit "view desktop site" in Chrome mobile. Won't ever get this bs either.

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