"We believe this ban marks a significant turning point in South Korea's attitude to animal protection," said Lee Sang-kyung, a spokesperson for the local branch of the Humane Society International, an animal rights group. "(This) is testament to the passion and determination of our animal-loving public and politicians who reached a tipping point to consign this outdated industry to our history books."

This doesn't look like it will do anything for "animals" as people will just eat other animal meat. It just appeases western sensibilities about what the world is allowed to eat.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

It's more shallow than that: dog consumption was already nearly eradicated except among the poorest in South Korean society. This is a cheap optics win for a fascist administration trying to take eyes off of the failures of President Yoon's economic policy, or him targeting women, minorities, and disabled people.

It's good that dog meat is banned, but it was already rapidly fading. It wasn't a delicacy, it was for the poorest of the poor and now Yoon gets to pat himself on the back.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Without knowing, I suppose it depends on whether the dog meat industry specifically had poor standards.

If for some reason it did (like it was unregulated or something), and this ban is actually enforced, then I suppose this would improve things.

I do acknowledge that I know nothing on the subject though.

[–] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Stock up before it's too late: https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/

[–] NinePeedles@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming that the down voters of this comment didn't visit the site.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Or they’re just bitter

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love how if you click "I get it now" they assume you now don't want any animal killed instead of you having rationalised that proper dog meat is okay to consume.

The reason they are generally banning dog meat is not really because it's a dog, but because it's linked with animal theft iirc. I don't know anything so if this is wrong I'm wrong lmao.

[–] Radicalized@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago

There is one specific breed of dog kept for meat and no one has them as pets. They’re basically cattle.

[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

chickens are intelligent

They had me convinced until that point. Clearly they've never raised chickens.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I don't understand I want to order some dog meat? What kind of scam is this.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

But where can I actually get some dog meat to eat? Gotta at least taste it to see if it's nice.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The loony left is taking away our dog burgers! I will not eat the bugs!!!

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get the joke, but it was a fascist admin that banned the dog meat, far from a leftist administration. Yoon just wanted a cheap optics win to distract from his horrible economic policies and targeting women, disabled people, and minorities, despite dog meat having close to no consumption anyways. Dog consumption was only popular as an extremely cheap cut of meat during and after the Korean War, it isn't a delicacy and only the poorest of the poor were eating it recently.

[–] sub_ubi@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Only poors? Weird. In my country it's acceptable for a president to eat dog.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Culture varies! In Korea, dog wasn't really seen as a traditional or normal meat staple, but became popular as millions of people were starving during the Korean War and needed food, as well as in the aftermath. Dog happened to be cheap to produce.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

::: spoiler Eat it. Eat the bug! bug butt

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Bring on the rat burger. (No salt.)

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I still think it's wild that people argue about what pet it is ok to eat. I mean, I didn't really quit meat to this day and I don't really care what animal it's from. I care whether it was sourced ethically, at least up to my standards. I mostly refuse meat because of the horrible impact on the climate and because I can't / don't want to afford ethically sourced meat all too often.

[–] threeduck@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What is the definition of ethical? Can killing something that doesn't want to die be considered ethical? Does "but they're yummy" work as a valid excuse to violating the definition of "ethical"?

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

For example humanity has decimated predators and now needs to hunt just for population control. I consider every kill to protect the environment and keep populations stable 100% ethical.

That aside: Everything dies and if it's not by getting mauled that's a plus already. For me it depends on what the tradeoff for that is to be considered ethical.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think it's wild that people can't differentiate between pets and livestock. It doesn't require a lot of emotional maturity and yet people conflate the two constantly.

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't like dogs, does that mean I can eat them?

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

You can eat dogs even if you do like them, why wouldn't you be able to?

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I dont see any reason why you cant raise some livestock as pets. People already keep pigs as pets.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can pick a specific animal and raise it as a pet, and in that case you wouldn't eat it. That's always been a thing even before animal husbandry was attempted by humans. I'm kind of surprised you didn't know this.

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I meant that there is nothing inherent to dogs that makes them pets and not for eating, while livestock are for eating. They are both just animals, people should be consistent in either having empathy for all such animals or not at all.

[+] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works -13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Actually, the impact on climate is very very little. If the whole US would go vegan it would only decrease the total carbon emissions of the US by a little over 2%, the methane emissions would stay the same.

I haven’t quit meat, in fact I love it, but I will never support ethically bad living conditions for the animals. I only buy buy meat from animals that live free roaming with access to stables, even though it’s expensive where I live (about $ 20 per pound of cutlet)

[–] CannedLettuce@lemmy.lettucegarden.net 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where are you getting those numbers from? The EPA has agriculture at 10% of US green house gas emissions. A quarter of that (so close to your 2% number) is from methane emissions alone. If you stop farming animals you're also looking at reduced emissions from not using manure and growing less crops since you don't need to make feed.

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions#agriculture

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

And it's not just the greenhouse gas emissions. 1 oz of beef takes over 100 gallons of water to produce. In comparison broccoli takes about 2 gallons per oz. In terms of calories beef requires 7.25 times more water.

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

I don’t know anymore, sorry. It was some years ago in a study made by some German or Swiss scientists that was locked behind a paywall.
I’ll have a look at the sci-hub and drop the link if I’ll ever find it!

It was a very in-depth study also included mountainous regions where agriculture is not possible, the cows eat that grass and the waste of vegetables like husks and stems and stuff like that.

[–] NinePeedles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Time is Now, Dog Meat! Free Korea!

[–] Marechan@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

c/aneurysmprotesting

[–] konki@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good. Now do the other meats as well.

[–] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plants feel pain and communicate with each other.

[–] bear@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 months ago

Plants aren't sentient. When we say they "feel pain" and "communicate" we don't mean like sentient creatures. We just don't have better words to accurately convey the mechanics at play here. Computers also "communicate".

[–] authed@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ive see an African pour gasoline on a dog to burn its hair before cooking it... not sure they had any other meal options

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Like yeah good but still odd we decided it's weird to eat those intelligent, social, domesticated cuties but totally normal to systemically abuse torture and butcher similar, more intelligent, social, domesticated cuties.