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Will this undermine most of what makes IAmA special? Probably. But Reddit leadership has all the funds they need to hire people to perform those extra tasks we formerly undertook as volunteer moderators, and we'd be happy to collaborate with them if they choose to do so.

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[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

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[Mod Post] The Future of IAmA : IAmA

To our users, AMA guests, and friends,

You may have noticed that, in spite of our history of past protests against Reddit's poor site management, this subreddit has refrained from protesting or shutting down during the recent excitement on Reddit.

This does not imply that we think things are being managed better now. Rather, it reflects our belief that such actions will not make any significant difference this time.

Rather than come up with new words to express our concerns, I think some quotes from the NYT Editorial we wrote back in 2015 convey our thoughts very well:

Our primary concern, and reason for taking the site down temporarily, is that Reddit’s management made critical changes to a very popular website without any apparent care for how those changes might affect their biggest resource: the community and the moderators that help tend the subreddits that constitute the site. Moderators commit their time to the site to foster engaging communities.

Reddit is not our job, but we have spent thousands of hours as a team answering questions, facilitating A.M.A.s, writing policy and helping people ask questions of their heroes. We moderate from the train or bus, on breaks from work and in between classes. We check on the subreddit while standing in line at the grocery store or waiting at the D.M.V.

The secondary purpose of shutting down was to communicate to the relatively tone-deaf company leaders that the pattern of removing tools and failing to improve available tools to the community at large, not merely the moderators, was an affront to the people who use the site.

We feel strongly that this incident is more part of a reckless disregard for the company’s own business and for the work the moderators and users put into the site.

Amazing how little has changed, really.

So, what are we going to do about this? What can we change? Not much. Reddit executives have shown that they won't yield to the pressure of a protest. They've told the media that they are actively planning to remove moderators who keep subreddits shut down and have no intentions of making changes.

So, moving forward, we're going to run IAmA like your average subreddit. We will continue moderating, removing spam, and enforcing rules. Many of the current moderation team will be taking a step back, but we'll recruit people to replace them as needed.

However, effective immediately, we plan to discontinue the following activities that we performed, as volunteer moderators, that took up a huge amount of our time and effort, both from a communication and coordination standpoint and from an IT/secure operations standpoint:

  1. Active solicitation of celebrities or high profile figures to do AMAs.

  2. Email and modmail coordination with celebrities and high profile figures and their PR teams to facilitate, educate, and operate AMAs. (We will still be available to answer questions about posting, though response time may vary).

  3. Running and maintaining a website for scheduling of AMAs with pre-verification and proof, as well as social media promotion.

  4. Maintaining a current up-to-date sidebar calendar of scheduled AMAs, with schedule reminders for users.

  5. Sister subreddits with categorized cross-posts for easy following.

  6. Moderator confidential verification for AMAs.

  7. Running various bots, including automatic flairing of live posts

Moving forward, we'll be allowing most AMA topics, leaving proof and requests for verification up to the community, and limiting ourselves to removing rule-breaking material alone. This doesn't mean we're allowing fake AMAs explicitly, but it does mean you'll need to pay more attention.

Will this undermine most of what makes IAmA special? Probably. But Reddit leadership has all the funds they need to hire people to perform those extra tasks we formerly undertook as volunteer moderators, and we'd be happy to collaborate with them if they choose to do so.

Thanks for the ride everyone, it's been fun.

Sincerely,

The IAmA Moderator Team (2013-2023)

[–] Pika@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

thank you for posting this, it annoys me to no end the amount of "omg this happened now on reddit" posts that link to the source on reddit. Like that defeats the purpose of leaving the platform if I'm forced to go back anyway and give them traffic. Make a mirror, stop giving the site more traffic lol

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, it's still clingy with the direct links and the constant posts, so many saying "Reddit is DEAD to me!"... yet they keep on talking non-stop about Reddit.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So why are you here talking about it?

[–] Stealth_Bummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah theres no point in mods making a community a special place when reddit is going out of their way to shit on the mods and users.

[–] DudePluto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's pretty insane the amount of work they did for free. I never even thought about the effort that went into a sub like that. Good for them

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for posting this. I still have RIF installed and refuse to download the reddit app, so I can't see the original post. Appreciate it.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

refuse to download the reddit app, so I can’t see the original post

Rumor has it, Reddit has a website.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like a lot of work to see something on a site I don't want to be on.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Do you want to hate read or not???

[–] Netrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm already out of touch but who cares what reddit is doing?

It's dead to me.

[–] Nelots@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Welcome to !reddit. This is a community for all news and discussions about Reddit.

I would imagine everyone subscribed to !reddit does.

[–] MerliSYD@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Problem is that I'm browsing the All filter until I find the right communities for me, so people like me inadvertently see these unwanted Reddit topic posts too 😕

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

It's always a good idea to take a look at the community label to understand the context though

[–] maror@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The people who coordinated celebrity AMAs did it for free...? That disgusting sisyphian labour was done for free? That might have been the most important work any mod team did from the perspective of Reddit's PR. How could Reddit be that ungrateful? They had it all

[–] wmrch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I can't fathom why people work for a for-profit company as volunteers, especially in time-consuming and high-profile jobs like this.

[–] fidodo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

That's because the official Reddit stance was that the communities themselves belonged to the moderators so it wasn't that you were doing with for Reddit, they were just providing you with a tool to build a community.

Of course that was clearly a lie, and as soon as moderators exercised their own power by protesting, with the support of their communities, Reddit was like "jk never mind, actually we own the communities and you're disposable".

I really don't understand why anyone would volunteer for a corporation for free, that doesn't pay you, doesn't care about you, and will drop you like hot garbage if it benefits them. There was a myth of ownership over the subreddits, but that myth is gone.

[–] A_S_B@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 1 year ago

Well this is the bare minimum because if Reddit wants to have direct control over subreddits they ought to pay moderators. The fact they will still moderate is still a concession that i think they should rethink. Literally if Reddit wants control over communities let them deal with all the hassle of moderation. Sometimes stuff end and it does not need to be a gracious end.

[–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I was surprised they didn't participate in the blackout, but at least it's better late than never.

[–] SilentSeven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

🍿🍿🍿 ...... How can you not love this?

[–] MisterMoo@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit fired Victoria because they didn’t want to spend any cash on this kind of thing.

[–] Stranded@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which makes no sense, because the high-profile AMAs she made happen certainly broadened reddit's public appeal by quite a bit.

[–] Detry@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

unfortunately all of the work this team has done made this a big enough draw to justify paid professional mods. Anything that draws millions of views and engagement can be taken over by reddit. I doubt a single tear is being shed over full control being handed over to a paid reddit employee

[–] wowbagger@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The problem is that the people that have done it for years has a bunch of experience a new team doesn't have. It will most likely take years for the subreddit to run as well as it has been.

[–] ilovetvshows@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All mods of reddit should refuse to do it for free.

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Tricky question. But yeah, if you're modding a channel just for the sake of being a mod and you do it for free. You're a sucker.

I help moderate a small discord channel, Maybe I'm a sucker too. But I help so our outfit can have a place to hang out outside of the game, share ideas and plan events.

I bet some reddit mods feel the same way.

[–] minorninth@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder how long before we start seeing some plausible but fake AMAs

[–] substill@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IAMA Reddit CEO with a micro penis AMA

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I was skeptical at first, but the intimate knowledge of his micropenis convinced me.