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Profit, rent, and private property are all forms of theft.
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Personally, I'm not a big fan of the "surplus value == theft" argument. At least not in every case.
The reason is that simply by being in the context of your employment, you can work more efficiently and produce more value than you could on your own. If your wage is between your 'potential solo value' and your 'current value', then the profit comes from the fact that you're working in the context that your employer has provided.
This isn't to say I'm against workers getting the full profit, but it's not as bad as some people say it is.
That falls apart a bit when you consider that Capital, ie the tools and materials used to create Value by labor, is itself a combination of labor and natural resources. The context you speak of was not created by a Capitalist owning said tools, the act of arranging and managing labor is of course itself also labor, but that labor is not derived from Ownership, nor does said ownership provide labor nor value. It's separate.
produce more value than you could on your own
Sooo... more value that can be stolen by capitalists?
the context that your ~~employer~~ fellow people doing all the actual work has provided.
FTFY.
Your argument against "“surplus value = theft” is about as shit as it gets.
but it’s not as bad as some people say it is.
The only reason you can pretend that certain aspects of capitalism is "not as bad as some people say it is" is because of the fact that organized labor have spilt a lot of their own blood fighting to get it to the point of being "not as bad as some people say it is."
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I'm all in on the labor theory of value. It's gonna be a long haul to displace all the people who believe value is created by magic in the market, though.
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