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[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 64 points 5 months ago

Sounds like they just proved that some people left Reddit for lemmy and now like lemmy.

While this kind of work is necessary, confirming assumptions, it’s not particularly interesting.

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 35 points 5 months ago

I think that the mere existence of such study, to begin with, is already interesting.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I gotta find this one paper for you…

It was like “if you run antivirus A, and then run antivirus B…. You catch more viruses than running either one by itself”

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 5 months ago

Fascinating!

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Are you the author @Blaze?

I think that the metrics that the author is looking at, while easily accessible, are the wrong metrics to be considering on impact.

First, we need a way of quantifying the quality of users, rather than quantity. Specifically, we know that no 'apparent' material dent was made in the user numbers, and actually probably wasn't. But that doesn't mean that critical players in the system didn't hit the eject button. I think its a widely held belief that it was more of the 'power' user types that left and went to lemmy. We need to test that specific belief. This work doesn't do that.

There are however metrics that could test that belief. For example, posts/ user and comments/ user both can be representative of engagement. Log interactions/ log system interactions can be used to identify power users (like @thepicardmaneuver). This can also be done at the community level (we'll have to do some matching), to compare individual communities.

I think also a classification of "S-tier" engaged users, "A-teir" engaged users, users, and bots; calculating a ratio of them, then plotting them against log engagement is likely the best way to describe 'overall' engagement. My hypothesis is that Lemmy has a significantly higher ratio of S and A tier, while Reddit has a higher ratio of lurking users who never posts (shadow accounts) or comment, and bots. The ratio of these factors together create a metric of 'quality', which is a dynamic expression related to quantity ~ engagement. To determine quality, we need to know how engaged are users with the community, and how often.

I've been working separately from this different approach but am obviously not close to publishing. I wasn't even necessarily planning for peer review outside of the lemmy community. I was thinking more of a bot to gather and present these metrics at regular intervals.

[-] Blaze@discuss.online 7 points 5 months ago

I'm not, I barely crossoposted this from nutomic's post on !lemmy@lemmy.ml !

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 5 months ago

Hey buddy I see you everywhere now. Just want to say I appreciate your participation on Lemmy.

[-] nutomic@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago

If you click on "Author Information & Copyright" there is a contact email for the author.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

No. I'm not.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Reddit has turned into a cesspool of fiefdoms run by power-hungry, basement-dwelling narcissists and political operators.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 8 points 5 months ago

Implying Lemmy is any different

[-] ademir@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 5 months ago

Implying the world is any different.

[-] density@kbin.social 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So far, not a problem that I have noticed or even seen discussed.

Moderation is very light compared to reddit. I hope it will become more mature as moderators can really make special contributions.

Quickly scanned your post history and it's a bunch of nasty nonconstructive comments with a similar tone to the above. If you experience problems with mods everywhere you go, it's probably due to your own behavior.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 5 months ago

Lookit here, it's a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

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