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Anyone have the 2023 numbers on energy transition spending by country (hexbear.net)
submitted 9 months ago by Abracadaniel@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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These are the 2021 numbers. I have a printout of the 2022 numbers (china 546B, US 141B) but not a digital copy.

This page indicates that the 2023 numbers are out but I can't get access to the report. anyone got the new version of this chart?

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[–] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

PDF warning: https://assets.bbhub.io/professional/sites/24/energy-transition-investment-trends-2023.pdf

EDIT: This is the report released in 2023, not the one covering 2023 I guess.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah this is what I have posted at work, a lib found it "worrisome" lol

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there a spending per gdp version of this chart?

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I ran the numbers real quick. (energy transition investment dollars / gdp) China 0.037 USA 0.005

China spent 7 times more of its GDP on energy transition investment.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I mean, China is obviously dominating but those US numbers look better than I would have thought. IDK if they might be deceptive though

[–] regul@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

"investment" in the US rarely leads to stuff getting built

it does result in a lot of consultants buying condos though

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago

the 2023 numbers posted in this thread show a significantly wider gap.

[–] oktherebuddy@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago

I've been checking for this weekly too lmao, it's such an unbelievable body to the rest of the world that people can't actually ignore it

[–] spacesweedkid27@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They still emmit the most, let's see how satellite evidence will change over time.

[–] oktherebuddy@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
  1. Grab the object that is currently nearest to you and see where it says it was made. Then think about where the emissions from the creation of that object were counted.
  2. Despite (1), per-capita primary energy usage and emissions in China are way, way lower than any western country. Climate change mitigation is about supporting the maximum number of human lives per unit of carbon emitted, not maximum number of countries.
  3. Given that China as a political unit is the highest absolute emitter of carbon, isn't it wonderful that they're taking it so seriously? That's a huge chunk of this global problem they've taken on.
[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

this

1.4 billion people emit more than 0.35 billion, while those 1.4 billion people are also the world's factory

yeah no shit. China's per capita CO2 emissions are half that of the US.