Outright climate denial, avoidance of actually engaging the question, and zero mention of any policy Republicans might advance on climate.
Sounds about Right.
It’s even funnier when considering they could suggest climate denying policies and still don’t.
They have no platform. Literally. Not even a regressive one.
Them having a platform is irrelevant. Trump is going to be the nominee, almost certainly even if he's actually found guilty and ends up in prison (which I doubt will ever happen). This is all just a marketing exercise for the other candidates.
Also if they're getting booed for denying climate change(?), then they're better off just being silent on the campaign trail while continuing to support the oil sector once in office. Hell, they could even pivot to what the dems do by campaigning on it and doing nothing if their base starts to make it an issue.
The Republicans don't offer any solution for anything. It's nothing but denialism and pandering. How could anyone have heard these idiots speak and think they have anything to offer us as President?
A crowd full of Republicans started to boo.
Former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley went so far as to venture, “Climate change is real.”
Is this article from The Onion? Or am I like on candid camera or something? They believe in climate change now and are against it?
Climate change is real but it's caused by abortions.
Don't forget those pesky immigrants. Also anything woke!
The narrative changed about 10 years ago to "well it's happening, but humans can't do anything about it, it's a natural process". No real difference, but it puts a bit more smoke and mirrors up for the rubes who believe that sort of thing since it sounds a bit less wrong.
Interesting that you can tell where someone's political development kinda "paused" based on this. A dork who thinks climate change isn't happening is a full 10 years behind their fellow dorks.
Here's their evolution on climate change:
How many more steps until some responsibility is accepted?
It's the classic Yes, Prime Minister Four-Stage Strategy.
In stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
In stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
I want to point out that they denied climate change while in Milwaukee, which set a record high temperature of 101°F the day of the debate, with a heat index of 115°F.
The average high temperature over the past 30 years is 80°F
No wonder the audience started to boo.
As a non American, viewing this from the outside. Let me say this.
These guys are ridiculous please don't vote for them. Not only do they not believe in climate change, which is insane given how much of the planet is currently ablaze, but they don't even understand what chat GPT is. So they are corrupt and stupid.
What am I saying, they are presidential material.
Vivek saying "I'm the only one here not bought and paid for" just sounds like projection to me, along with a bit of "no true Scotsman" fallacy thrown in for flavoring.
Also dude literally started an "anti-woke" company just to Join in on the anti-woke grift.
'I'm the only one here not bought and paid for, because I just started shopping myself around.'
The only people that say climate change is a hoax are either in need of serious psychiatric intervention or being paid to say it's not real.
Lahaina is fucking gone
And the far northern Canadian city of Yellowknife was just evacuated due to a wildfire.
The Arctic is literally on fire.
Oil companies buy votes.
Climate activists can't.
I think we have to rapidly come to terms with the fact that, politically, we are never going to adequately address climate change before it is too late. Conservatives will dig in their heels and slow the process to a near-standstill, and liberal democratic institutions will allow it to happen.
Climate change will be addressed by either a deus-ex-machina-like technological breakthrough, or by means outside of electoral politics.
Climate change will be addressed by either a deus-ex-machina-like technological breakthrough, or by means outside of electoral politics.
And we can rule out the technological breakthrough. It's unlikely, although not impossible, to happen, BUT it's absolutely impossible to be implented on a large enough scale to make change.
The same people who don't want wind turbines or solar farms within eye sight of their backyard are suddenly to accept something completely new and not well understood or tested... on an unprecedented scale? Sign me up for a laugh.
edit: All those bastards advocating some world saving technology, just so they don't need to change something now, ignore the fact that it'll also be them who will prevent that technology - if it comes. NIMBYs stay NIMBYs.
Remember what happened when we got that miraculously effective covid vaccine? The unwillingness of people to take that simple, free action to help return to the normal they wanted back so badly really killed my hope for an end to climate change.
Bought and paid for by the all-powerful Climate Science Industry?
In my own stupid opinion, the GOP is infested by fascist thought to its very core. And yet, they got boo'd for denying climate change. Some change is good, and some change is bad, and I think the conservatives recognizing climate change is a damn good thing.
But it should have happened 20 years ago. We are seriously fucked now. Thanks Mitch.
All of these dorks are just auditioning for jobs in the Trump administration. They refuse to say anything bad about Trump even though they're running in a race against him.
Except none of them will get jobs because Trump thinks they're all dorks.
Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie shot back, “I’ve had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT.”
This comment was spot on - I listened to an interview with Vivek Ramaswamy and thought he was one of the most insincere bullshiters I've heard in a long time. "Chat GPT" nails it.
They don't believe in anything. They're vapid narcissists grabbing at power. They will say and do anything for power and approval, that's what makes them so dangerous. It wasn't a debate up there, they weren't debating anything, it was a popularity contest and each and every one of them danced for the crowd in their own way
I love it when people with hundreds of millions act like they can't be bought. Like no shit, you don't have to be bought, you're already on the sides of the buyers
These folk are the biggest cringelords who ever walked the Earth. An international embarrassment that any of these people are taken seriously enough to ever get within arms reach of holding public office.
Wow. It is hard to believe, but they are all as dumb as Trump. Couldn't they have placed just one candidate with an IQ over 90? I mean, just for a change?
Being smart doesn't poll well on the right.
Still, for a party that has spent years ignoring or denying the biggest threat to our planet’s future, tonight’s responses were actually, almost, a little bit refreshing.
setting the bar so low that any response besides outright hostility as refreshing, is not refreshing.
Ah! Finally, after years of being given boiling water to drink, I've finally been given horribly scalding water instead. Refreshing! /s
my "not bought and paid for" t-shirt is generating a lot of questions already answered by my t-shirt
As I said again and again, trump is simply following the fascist playbook. You have to at least grant it to him, it is virtually the only thing he's good at. Do you know which other very popular democratically elected leader skipped presidential debates a few years ago? It's the guy waging war to Ukraine.
spoiler to those who were born yesterday
Barring the GOP just straight up blocking Trump from becoming the presidential nominee, Trump is going to become the presidential nominee. If Trump doesn't become the presidential nominee, the GOP can kiss their chance at the Oval Office goodbye. Either option (Trump becoming the nominee or the GOP forfeiting their chances at getting a Republican president) means the Republican primaries debates are all complete wastes of time. They're only worth watching if Trump's there and it's only because of the dunks.
I’ve had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT
he's trying so hard
Yes. Good. Tear your own party apart. Without the Republican menace to worry about, a new progressive party can arise to challenge the Democrats and yank the Overton window back where it belongs.
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