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I've used a US-QWERTY keyboard layout my entire life. I've seen other layouts that do things like reduce the size of the enter/backspace keys, move the pipe operator (|) and can't wrap my head around how I would code on those.

What are your experiences? Are there any layouts that you prefer for coding over US English? Are there any symbols that you have a hard time reaching ($ for example)?

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[–] wiillou@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

I use Coleman DH and symbols have never been an issue because I just put them on another layer πŸ˜…

[–] brie@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

Used US and JP qwerty, both are fine after a while, but switching can be annoying (mostly I mix up whether " or @ is Shift-2).

The one thing I hate is the fragmentation of the bottom left cluster. I started out on keyboards with Ctrl Fn Super Alt, but now I much prefer Fn Ctrl Alt Super.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I use a sub-40% layout that I love. I wrote all about it here: https://natecox.dev/lets-talk-about-keyboards

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Started on US, now using DE for decades. But able to still use us. Slash position is a plus there.

But Swiss, that's the stuff of nightmares! Oh and mac while usable unnecessarily sucks too imo.

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But Swiss, that’s the stuff of nightmares!

Ha, that sounds funny (in a morbid kind of way...). What's so bad about it?

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[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

If I have to work on an American QUERTY keyboard, I have to look for each and every special character. Because our QWERTZ-keyboard has them in other places to make space for all the interesting characters an American keyboard simply fails to offer.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

I'm columnar-ortho now, but for standard it's ISO or bust. You can keep your shitty enter key and your overly long shift key

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a German I have to admit that the ANSI US layout is the one American standard that's superior to the European ones. That said, I still need some Umlaute and accented letters from time to time, which is why I use the EurKEY layout, which adds all of those keys back and many morek, most of them accessible without having to use a dead key.

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[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

I can't even wrap my mind around people who use 60% keyboards and use a bunch of extra function keys let alone anything more drastic

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

ABNT2 here, this layout is necessary due to many brazilian portuguese words containing accents. Plus, having Γ§ as a separate key is great. For coding, the \ | key is left to Z and the : ; key is near the right shift, with brackets and curly braces usually around Enter, while ' " is left to 1. It's very good for programming, I'd say.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The British want a stupid as fuck they moved the tilde into a weird spot and you're basically can't do it

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[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm using the Czech keyboard, I've put in the time to learn where the various symbols are because I didn't really want to switch constantly between CZ and US like most programmers do. When I write something like tΔ›ΕΎiΕ‘tΔ› I prefer it not to look like t26i3t2, then delete it, switch keyboards and write it again.

Regarding the various types (like long/short enter, pipe symbol position etc.) I don't have a particular preference, when I switch laptops, I make mistakes for a while, then get used to it

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I’m having to use US keyboard layout in Oz and not enjoying the half-height Return key very much.

[–] simonced@lemmy.one 1 points 2 years ago

Using the JIS layout. One thing I miss from ANSI is the single and double quotes on my right pinky.(on the same key) Other than that, JIS is a nice layout to do programing with.

[–] pkill@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I'm using a sligntly modified Niro layou (in a way that makes it more ergonomic with vim). Though I might need to adjust it since lately I began feeling disproportionate strain on my right ring finger.

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