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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I made a post about this on combatfootage(NSFL) .This is wayyy worse than the post suggests.

The IDF dressed up as medics and civilians and executed a person lying on a hospital bed. It's a new war-crime world record.

Jeez Christ. War crimes without blinking.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 months ago

Every time you think these Israeli terrorists can't get any worse they prove to the world that they can reach a new depraved low

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (17 children)

This post and multiple comments are being reported, so I'm making a top post to be 100% clear on this:

The facts of the issue are not in dispute. Israel did send an undercover team into a hospital to assassinate legitimate military targets. They admit to it and we have surveilance camera footage confirming it.

Problem #1 - Patients in hospitals, either ill or injured, are a protected class under the Geneva Conventions. You cannot run an assassination operation in a hospital, that's a war crime. Even if the targets are legitimately bad people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_neutrality

"The First Geneva Convention states that there should be no “obstacle to the humanitarian activities” and that wounded and sick “shall be respected and protected in all circumstances.”[4]

Article 18 demands that medical units, i.e. hospitals and mobile medical facilities, may in no circumstances be attacked.[5]

Problem #2 - Dressing as civilians, doctors, and women to engage in a military operation is is SEPARATE war crime called "perfidy".

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v2/rule65?country=us#sectioni

"(4) One may commit an act of treachery or perfidy by, for example, feigning an intent to negotiate under a flag of truce or a surrender or feigning incapacitation by wounds or sickness or feigning a civilian, non-combatant status or feigning a protected status by the use of signs, emblems, or uniforms of the United Nations or a neutral State or a State not party to the conflict."

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Not to mention only one of three killed was even associated with Hamas.

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 7 points 9 months ago

They bombed entire hospitals and the world community didn't bat an eye, so they thought that the Geneva convention doesn't apply to them

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for adding that. I'm not sure that I feel the first point applies here (I can see that people might argue otherwise) but the second point seems like a slam dunk.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The second point applies to both - a combatant also entered as a civilian and received aid pretending to be a civilian.

One doesn't justify the other - the way i could legitimize it is by saying the hot squad dropped their disguise before engaging... like sending their own flag up the pole. Would need to review prior to saying if it was correct or not.

The arguement against the first section is that those protections apply to civilians and non combatants - conviently left out of their statement. The (pretty solid IMO) arguement is that combatants do not fall under this protection, and terrorists never do, abd these were still designated combatants including possibly carrying arms and planning ops. The room also looks oddly cleaned for three dead people including at least one head shot.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

Even given that this was a terror cell actively planning a terrorist attack, this is unjustifiable. If they had the operational access to assassinate them, they also had the power to extract and arrest them. If they had evidence strong enough to compel an extrajudicial killing, then they had evidence to present at trial.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 9 months ago

Why is the most moral army in the world committing war crimes? Does that make them more or less moral?

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Assuming the 3 killed were Hamas, this is still a warcrime. You don't bomb hospitals, and you don't send hit squads into hospitals to murder people.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Israel committing war crimes like there's no tomorrow. Accountability needs to be taken.

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