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Why can’t we have federated identity to login into fediverse instead of creating login for each instance?

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[–] Kichae@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So, anyone can spin up a Lemmy website. They're all independent sites, with independent and unaffiliated admins.

In order to sign in to a website with a given set of credentials, that website needs to know something about those credentials. Importantly, they need to know something about your password.

And that's a security nightmare that no user should be ok with.

Now, there are single sign-on (SSO) possibilities, but for them to be universally accessible across the Fediverse, you either need to impose them on 20,000 admins across two dozen software implementations, or you need them all to a) agree to support SSO, and b) agree to support the same SSO options.

Despite the fact that most of these websites look the same, they're all completely different websites, and while they can be treated, on first glance, as having the same content, they're very different places run by very different people. They can't be treated like a singular entity.

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[–] DreadTowel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It'd be great to support identity based on a key hash, so that it's completely decoupled from any instances. Maybe some time in the future.

[–] toasteranimation@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] mango_master@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

This explains the fediverse with some examples of different instances

https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/introduction-to-activitypub/508

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[–] lunaticneko@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I think you should more clearly define how it would work and what features you want. Then, all the technical problems will soon surface and you will see that it is not as appealing anymore.

How do you log in? How do you reconcile people with the same name? Which instance are you representing? There are tons of difficult questions that make the idea impractical.

[–] wutBEE@lemmy.wutbee.com 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I wish there was a way links could auto-resolve to the instance I’m logged in with.

[–] toasteranimation@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[–] cerevant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I think people are working on browser extensions to do that, and it would work for users & communities. As far as I can tell posts and comments are numbered by the instance, and don't correspond between instances, so there is no way to link them in an instance independent way.

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[–] lemminer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Cause it's decentralised. Which is good.

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