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"Muso, a research firm that studies piracy, concluded that the high prices of streaming services like Spotify and Apple Music are pushing people back towards illegal downloads. Spotify raised its prices by one dollar last year to $10.99 a month, the same price as Apple Music. Instead of coughing up $132 a year, more consumers are using websites that rip audio straight out of YouTube videos, and convert them into downloadable MP3 or .wav files.

Roughly 40% of the music piracy Muso tracked was from these “YouTube-to-MP3” sites. The original YouTube-to-MP3 site died from a record label lawsuit, but other copycats do the same thing. A simple Google search yields dozens of blue links to these sites, and they’re, by far, the largest form of audio piracy on the internet."

The problem isn't price. People just don't want to pay for a bad experience. What Apple Music and Spotify have in common is that their software is bloated with useless shit and endlessly annoying user-hostile design. Plus Steve Jobs himself said it back in 2007: "people want to own their music." Having it, organizing it, curating it is half the fun. Not fun is pressing play one day and finding a big chunk of your carefully constructed playlist is "no longer in your library." Screw that.

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[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nicotine+ is the way to go for this.

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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Always has been

[–] clif@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"when pigs fly: the death of oink, the birth of dissent, and a brief history of record industry suicide"

Look it up if you haven't read it, I never miss an opportunity to post it but it looks like the original demonbaby host is now offline. There are mirrors though.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] GeekFTW@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Not in the slightest. Even with the last decade of 'pfft, why pirate when we have Spotify?!1' dialogues, music piracy never slowed down for a moment.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Last year, over 17 billion visits were made to music piracy websites around the world, first reported by Wired.

We’ve come a long way since Napster, but people are once again using the internet to illegally download their favorite songs in a major way.

Muso, a research firm that studies piracy, concluded that the high prices of streaming services like Spotify and Apple Music are pushing people back towards illegal downloads.

Instead of coughing up $132 a year, more consumers are using websites that rip audio straight out of YouTube videos, and convert them into downloadable MP3 or .wav files.

A simple Google search yields dozens of blue links to these sites, and they’re, by far, the largest form of audio piracy on the internet.

Google has hardline policies against copyright infringement in its terms of service but seems to let these music piracy sites scootch by.


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[–] trslim@pawb.social 2 points 9 months ago

Me, still using youtube-mp3 website

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Spotify raised its prices by one dollar last year to $10.99 a month, the same price as Apple Music.

Meanwhile I've been paying the same $4.99 for Pandora's simple commercial free service for the last 10 years. I can't select individual songs to play, it just plays random songs based on my channel choices, but it works fine for me. Anything I specifically want to listen to I'll just look up on YouTube.

[–] snownyte@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

more consumers are using websites that rip audio straight out of YouTube videos, and convert them into downloadable MP3 or .wav files.

Noobs...

I used to DJ on Second Life and it was always a treat to hear someone else DJing and they play music that was obviously ripped from YouTube. Because they were too lazy to cut off the parts when the channel would ask for subscribers, play different sounds and they'd even rip off music video versions.

The other thing with Spotify is that it bullies you into it's subcription. Limited Skips. Ad bombardment (ads are still on podcasts so why even pay a subscription?). The app on mobile is abysmally slow with connection issues.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I really miss iTunes circa 2007 (I think?) before it got enshittified. I had it running on a Windows machine with my carefully-curated music library until the machine died. I got the music files off but had to reinstall iTunes and by that time it was a bloated piece of crap. I haven't found the equivalent since!

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

I was in the same boat as you about 5 years ago - I had been stubbornly using iTunes, but it was so slow and the store was just an annoyance, it was getting in the way of me actually listening to my music. I ended up choosing MusicBee over Winamp or foobar2000 because it has all the library management stuff (even a sync to mobile device function) and a great interface right out of the box.

[–] flintheart_glomgold@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yah, and before that SoundJam, an indy app which Apple bought and re-skinned into iTunes.

At the time it was all wonderful and intuitive. Drag and drop everything, beautifully curated collections, simple and dependable, and sitting right there on your hard drive / iPod so you always had everything.

Now it's all a sewer of bullshit, annoying and alienating to use, it makes music a miserable experience. They wonder why people don't want to pay for it. And use the law to beat us over the head until we submit to our own misery.

We really gotta update consumer laws for the digital age so there's a reasonable balance between corporations and consumers again.

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