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Does anybody know how/whether this is going to affect hardware obsolescence?

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[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not going to worry about it, sounds like a problem for my IT department since they are the ones who insist I use windows for work.

Me, I will be just fine on my Linux gaming PC.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The good thing about Linux is if your distribution makes boneheaded decisions like MS, you can switch to another one.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Or fork it and make new distribution based on it minus the annoyimg bits

[–] GigglyBobble@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That and the other good thing: no distro will make decisions that are even in the ballpark of insanity of those by big tech corps.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Oh, they do those all the time.

And then either quietly backpedal once everybody complains or stick to it until everybody moves and they are dead.

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

no distro will make decisions that are even in the ballpark of insanity of those by big tech corps.

Manjaro dev team enters the room.

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was gonna say ubuntu with forcing snaps. What's wrong with manjaro?

[–] Spiracle@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Someone made a website to compile them you might find, but here’s what I remember:

  • Putting the extraordinarily unstable test release of a package in their normal release. That package specifically included disclaimers that it was for testing only, not meant for any users, and it was very clearly not meant for general release to unsuspecting end-users.

  • Getting banned off the AUR (twice?) for DDOS-ing it due to their faulty code. As I recall, every machine queried the AUR for updates constantly, or something like that.

  • Breaking AUR dependencies because of holding back releases for a few weeks, which they regularly to improve safety. Basically, don’t use AUR on Manjaro.

[–] HeavyMitchel@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I have no Idea.
But Linux might be a hardware obsolescence counter-mesure.

[–] callyral@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Probably going to make a lot of hardware obsolete for Windows, a lot of people with older systems are either going to stick to their current version without updating (no updates could mean security issues) or switch to Linux for better hardware support. This is assuming that MS decides to support less and less older hardware with each update.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I could do Linux. I used to do MS-DOS. I've got a 10-yr-old Dell laptop to experiment with. I've been advised to start with Mint. Is there something "for dummies" with very clear instructions?

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just be aware that Linux running from a flash drive will probably be quite slow compared to real Linux.

Put an SSD into a USB 3.2 enclosure, and use Ventoy to add ISOs. You can select the distro at boot, and it runs fast enough that the difference between an installed drive isn't noticeable.

The difference compared to a flash drive is brilliant, it's ridiculously fast in comparison.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

It works well on my 7 year old laptop and my 10 year old media server :)

I don't know about prices anywhere else, but I bought a 500GB SSD and a Sabrent enclosure about a month ago for £20 each. Like you said, it's better to upgrade the computer first, if it hasn't been already, but if you use portable storage regularly, it's worth it.