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Introducing Fedora Atomic Desktops - Fedora Magazine (fedoramagazine.org)
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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Good that these finally have a unified name now, rather than people just being expected to know that Fedora + [obscure mineral you probably haven't heard of] means immutable, plus having no idea of what mineral corresponds to what DE.

Silverblue and Kinoite are cool names, but really they should be renamed to Fedora Gnome (or Workstation, to line up with their standard desktop naming) Atomic, and Fedora Plasma Atomic, like they've done with Onyx >> Budgie Atomic

I understand why they wouldn't want to suddenly change the branding of existing projects though.

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

I understand why they wouldn’t want to suddenly change the branding of existing projects though.

I'm not sure if I agree, I feel like the long term damage of keeping the names is greater than changing them now to Fedora Plasma Atomic (Formerly Kinoite) / Fedora Atomic Workstation (Formerly Silverblue). Leaving them as is, is just going to create more confusion in the future to new users who won't immediately understand why the naming convention is different for the other spins and will create more confusion for documentation / support threads online.

[–] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think that atomic is a way better name than immutable imo

[–] Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I feel that I am 50:50 on it, immutable at least conveyed more information about what it is while Atomic feels a lot more "buzz-word-y" and does not convey as well what it means. Regardless, I'd say the bigger issue is keeping the old Silverblue & Kinoite names, they really should change them even if it means having a ~2 year period of having "Formerly Silverblue / Kinoite".

[–] ChristianWS@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Issue is that Immutable also conveyed a different type of information. When I first heard of it, I genuinely thought it was something like DeepFreeze for Windows

[–] technojamin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Are you familiar with the concept of “atomicity” in relation to database systems? It’s actually a very appropriate term, and the article touches on its use over “immutable”.

[–] Scio@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was kinda warming up to the totally unintended slightly inconsistent mineral based naming scheme tbh. But then, hadn't fully...

[–] giddy@aussie.zone 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm running Onyx (sorry... Fedora Budgie Atomic) on my Thinkpad and love it. Last night I decided to give Sway a shot and, when I was done with that, rolled back to Budgie without any of the cruft of installing additional DE's alongside each other.

[–] joojmachine@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Right? This is one of the main reasons I love Silverblue so much: every time I wanted to test something out, it's as quick and easy as it gets.

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I tried Fedora Sway Atomic last week. It didn’t go well.

https://urbanists.social/@markstos/111874604874920740

[–] giddy@aussie.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I had a similar experience when logging on to Sway - I had no clue what to do. Did you ever figure out how to bring up a menu or launcher? All I could do after googling was launch a terminal

[–] Hule@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sway cheatsheet

But I went back to Plasma..

[–] giddy@aussie.zone 1 points 9 months ago

Thanks for that. Now that I know the launcher shortcut I will give it another go