this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2023
38 points (93.2% liked)

Privacy

32159 readers
579 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

For example using privacy screen protectors or phone cases with a manual shutter over the camera.

all 31 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • font size on the phone is small, both for preference and for a bit more privacy.
  • protect most apps with fingerprint app lock, in case the phone is stolen unlocked or someone else tries to open another app.
  • webcam covers. I don't use phone camera covers, but android has privacy indicators that work as "snitches" when apps access the camera or mic. I have something similar for my other computers, at least for the camera.
  • I would like a hardware toggle for camera and mic on my next laptop, but that narrows down the laptop space too much.
[–] ElGringoLoco@lemmy.donmcgin.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure you're already aware, but the framework laptop includes toggles for mic and camera. I'm a big fan of the laptops in general because of the upgradability and ease of repair.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

right, I do have framework in my list of candidates for next laptop

[–] brimnac@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If i recall correctly, law enforcement can use biometric information to unlock phones without your consent or a warrant.

PIN codes still by consent or warrant only.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand the phone owner is not covered by the fifth amendment to prevent authorities from unlocking a device using biometrics, but authorities still need a warrant or probable cause as it falls into search of private property.

[–] brimnac@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You sure that’s been ruled on? Not arguing, only feel like I’ve seen a lot more instances of police violating that than hearing they couldn’t do it.

Edit: my apologies, you’re right. I was able to check into it and see recent rulings. Warrant levels may vary, but they need a warrant.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Despite username similarities, I'm not Legal Eagle, nor do I have a legal background. Though I would be very much surprised if authorities in the US could search anybody's phone at will without consent, warrant, or reasonable suspicion.

[–] DrWeevilJammer@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This very much depends on the state. Some state courts (California) have ruled that one can refuse a request to unlock a phone via biometrics, while others (Minnesota) have ruled that you do not have the right to refuse.

My understanding is that a passcode or PIN can be considered "testimony", because you have to communicate this information, and testimony can't be forced.

But biometrics aren't always considered to be testimony, because it's something you ARE.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How solid is the android privacy indicator, in terms of if it can be tricked to not appear when the camera is running

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

unless there's a way for non-root apps to bypass the Android API to access these sensors, I'd say it's pretty solid.

[–] hackris@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I have disconnected the built-in camera and microphone on my laptop. If I want to have a conference call, I just plug in equivalent external devices.

[–] Antimutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tape or card over front cameras. 🙈

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now that front cameras are embedded in the screen, that's a bit annoying..

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Solution (to me, at least): don't buy such phones. They are ugly anyways.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are becoming the norm though.. I wish they'd come with a privacy slider built-in like on some laptops.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Sure. I try to disable or disconnect cameras and microphones when possible. My laptop's camera has tape on it and on my PinePhone I've disabled the camera with a switch.

[–] pianoplant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not really. I disable camera access to most apps on my phone and in general I trust that. Never felt the need for a physical shutter.

I think if I was in an environment where I used my devices within eyeshot of others frequently I'd probably think about a privacy screen protector, but I typically have private places I can use my phone for sensitive things so I just try to be cognizant of my surroundings to prevent shoulder surfing

All depends on the threats you're concerned about I guess

[–] Extrasvhx9he 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tape over my webcamera on my laptop is about all I do physically everything else I trust to software. My pixel cant have a privacy screen protector because of the fingerprint scanner in the screen sadly

[–] stellargmite@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which Pixel is that out of interest ?

[–] Extrasvhx9he 4 points 1 year ago

Pixel 6 but I think every other newer gen has the same issue

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Often overlooked and incredably imortant. Your security is as strong its weakest link.

[–] Cross_Rhythm@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I have my power conditioner mounted under my desk with the switch easily accessible. When not in use, I routinely power that off. I don't have WoL enabled, but it gives me peace of mind anyways knowing that I'm pretty close to airgapped at that point.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'd be more worried about the microphone, keyloggers and screen capture than cameras. What's the obsession with cameras in particular?

[–] Xianshi@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Regularly delete stuff, you dont want your sd card popped out and accessed. The devices are encrypted but the sd card is not ... At least my device doesn't have that option. I also ensure I have backed up my 2FA codes if the phone is lost or stolen, you dont want to be locked out of your accounts. freeOTP+ allows you to export them.

I used to cover them camera with tape but I have to many signal video calls for that to be workable.