pkk is short for partiya karkeren kurdistan, which in kurdish means kurdistan workers party. they're definitely not liberal, not in the name and not in practice. but the ways they operate is always "icky". their actions regularly align with the us hegemony. "kurdish problem" has always been an important issue in turkey, and for the last 40 years pkk has been the dominant force to agitate that.
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If they align with US hegemony why are they on the terrorist list?
that terrorist list is just a tool for imperialism. you can see it clearly in the yemen situation, they got out of the list and got right back in. it's basically carrot/stick for the relations between turkey.
what i mean by aligning is: they are an insurgency, so their fight can be a catalyst for totally different projects, as we saw in libya. but sometimes they really do some stuff that benefits both themselves and imperialism, even though it hurts the proletariat.
But if they are leftist communists how is that hurting the proletariat? I need citations and sources on this whole thing
The thing is, they own the territory that US uses to seize Northeastern Syria's oil... And they are complicit in it https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/8/2/syria-slams-us-firms-oil-deal-with-sdf-as-null-and-void
Thank you for the clear explanation
That, and as the other commenter noted, they do have more shady dealings than that...
PKK and Imperialism https://en.rnp-f.org/2015/03/24/pkk-and-imperialism/
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the inception of pkk was a very "weird" time for turkey. in 1980 there was a coup d'eta following a large scale years-long popular socialist uprising. this uprising was first followed by reactionary opposition. it was called right vs left but it was basically communists vs fascists. the coup government was very brutal. they spared most of the fascists and communists were subjected to unimaginable methods of torture, and executions.
also after the coup, kurdish was forbidden, location names were changed and kurdish population was met with insane oppresion.
in this climate, any force that countered that oppression would be welcome. that's what pkk did. they are communists, but have swayed towards right. especially in syria (as pyd). they seem to want to become the government rather than become a socialist force now.
this article is a nice summary. i don't have pinpoint exaples, sorry.
they always had their political parties banned and set up under a new name. until recently i voted for that party. i would still do but we have a decent communist party now with delegates in the parliament.
Do you recommend any Leftist books on the PKK?
sorry, i don't know any.