How to run macOS on Linux (without too much hassle supposedly) : linux

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The missing graphics acceleration is annoying. It is really sluggish and not fun to use.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even if it’s slow, it’s fine by me. As long as it works 😅

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, being that sluggish won't do it for me. And supposedly there are other solutions that can pull it off(?!)

I tried quickemu last week. And it was really easy. However, the fact that it doesn't support the latest version of MacOS (there's an PR for that) and that it felt way slower than anticipated made me stop. Maybe I'll explore other solutions to get MacOS virtualized.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This video was all cool until he said "using spicy remote desktop protocol". That's when I knew it was all the typical bs guide that results in a slow system not usable for anything remotely close to real time. Also the guy is running without any GPU acceleration making things very bad.

[–] allywilson@sopuli.xyz 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's the advantage of this vs running it in a container? https://github.com/sickcodes/Docker-OSX

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I wasn't aware this existed, neat

[–] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

I used this one or a similar one a while back. Pure magic. It started downloading a ton of stuff, and half an hour later I was greated by a (slow) macOS, good enough to do some tests of my webapp on Safari.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I haven't watched that video, but I just followed the instructions on OSX-KVM and it was a breeze, took a few hours to install though.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’ve tried it a while ago and I couldn’t get to the end of the installation process as it was saying « internet connection required » (when clearly I had one outside of the VM)

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I had that problem with some versions of macOS, but not Big Sur

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well I tried and managed to install Big Sur but it’s not displaying my iPhone (for backups).

Since it was my main purpose for getting MacOs, it’s a bit useless.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, logging into iCloud is a whole nother thing, you have to spoof an Apple device and it's really complicated. I just wanted it for Safari though, so it worked for me.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How can an OS take so long to install?

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

It's relatively recent that OS can be installed in such a short time. MacOS isn't officially supported for installing on these systems so there process used here isn't going to be well optimised. Apple only care about installing MacOS on their own hardware, which is likely quick when they do it in production and slow elsewhere.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I’m currently installing MacOS using this guide to be able to use XCode for school and it seems to be working so far (with monterey). It’s a bit sluggish but it’s either this or buying/renting a macbook.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On Fedora? Then please tell me what are the lines you’re using 🙏

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

quickemu actually has installation instructions for Fedora. I'm using OpenSUSE, which unlike Fedora doesn't have installation instructions at all, that's why I ended up using Distrobox. I looked at my command history and I think this is what I did.

distrobox create --image ubuntu macos-vm-box
distrobox enter macos-vm-box
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
sudo apt install software-properties-common
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannick-mauray/quickgui
sudo apt update
sudo apt install quickgui
Use quickgui

It should also work on Fedora, but I may have missed some commands.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

https://github.com/kholia/OSX-KVM https://github.com/foxlet/macOS-Simple-KVM https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-run-macos-on-kvm-qemu/

[–] legoraft@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

dnf and apt are both package managers, they function a bit different. The ppa is a personal repository set up for apt, so it qon't work in combination with dnf. You could try and set up quickgui through the build instructions with the tarball on their github page, but as far as I can read right now quickemu does work on fedora through dnf

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I really have to learn RPM and make a COPR.

[–] legoraft@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

Googled around a bit, seems like this is the official guide

[–] blotz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You are running fedora which is using the dnf package manager. The commands you mentioned (apt/ppa) are part of the apt (aptitude) package manager which is comes with Ubuntu.

Apt is the command to install/manage packages on Ubuntu (and other distros that use apt). A ppa is a special way to tell apt where it can download packages from. It lets you a install 3rd party packages not provided by your distros default selection. It is specific to apt and will not work for dnf.

This isn't the end of the world and you can still install the package. Because these packages are open source, you can build the package from source. The instructions for which can be found on the github readme. Hopefully this cleared some things up!

[Edit] done some poking around, and I managed to get it running on fedora. I had weird issues building it from scratch, so I did it in a janky way by downloading and extracting the deb (it had precompiled bin inside). Looks to be working tho I couldn't test it because no qemu

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago

Well I guess that’s too complicated for me but thanks for the answer.

I’ll probably just reinstall a windows VM, maybe even Windows XP instead of 10 for the nostalgia trip 😅

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[–] brunofin@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

Yeah quickemu is great. I am using it to run a Windows 11 machine to run a .NET 4 backend with all routing and proxying setup perfectly so it all seamlessly points to localhost from Fedora. I also have a Mac OS VM to test all the Safari bs, but as mentioned the lack of GPU acceleration on osx is annoying.

[–] ___@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Linux fragmenting Ike this between distros is a major problem for the future.

[+] chepycou@rcsocial.net -9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

@Dariusmiles2123 I think the question is more, WHY would you want to run macos on #Linux

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m on a Mac and I run Linux, and many other operating systems like BeOS/Haiku, Windows 11, OpenSTEP, Mac OS 9…hell I even have a windows 1.0 iso somewhere.

Fun is fun. Don’t gatekeep fun.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Yes, correct answer. Unless you are constrained by time and can't afford "wasting your time" with it... There is no shame in exploring things or going on an (even silly) adventure.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Because my employer forces me to have an iPhone and I’d want to be able to back it up.

Also I’d want to learn how to use MacOS a little bit.

But I ain’t leaving the Linux boat at all😇

[–] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 1 points 9 months ago

For the former use case, have you considered a dedicated solution? For example: https://libimobiledevice.org/

[–] chepycou@rcsocial.net -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

@Dariusmiles2123 Damn, good luck with your employer. Some force their workers to have #fairphone phones to lower their impact, others force to have apple phones to ... uh ... well, not the same world.

From what I have seen, running an apple VM is completely feasible but painful and uses pretty much all your memory :/

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

My employer is the state of Geneva and I guess someone high up loves iPhone and managed to squeeze that in a budget. They don’t care about the fact it’s expensive as it’s not their money 🙁

I’d clearly prefer a fairphone but maybe it’s more difficult to run as a fleet and to impose restrictions on what an employee can do.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I need to compile some code for Linux and Mac.

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

XCode doesn't run on Linux or Windows. You need to either buy a Mac or run it in a VM.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My work VPN works on Linux but my company only paid for the Windows and Mac licenses. So the binary tells me it won't work.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You could try manually configuring a native VPN client.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

It's proprietary protocol so no

[–] ProtonBadger@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

I think usually people need it for a specific use-case. I maintain a GUI app for Linux, Windows and macOS. All I need to do is generate and test a binary sometimes.

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