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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Months later, footage was released of Seattle Police Officers Guild Vice President Daniel Auderer joking about Kandula’s death over the phone with SPOG President Mike Solan.

In that recording, Auderer can be heard laughing as he referred to Kandula as “a regular person,” going on to say, “Just write a check -- $11,000, she was 26 anyway, she had limited value.”

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[–] TengoHipo@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago

Are we surprised? They do internal reviews. They protect their own. That needs to be stopped. We need an outside company to go over evidence for complaints and things of this nature.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So that means what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Does this guy live near any crosswalks, by any chance...?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That guy probably doesn't even get out of his car to get donuts. Pedestrians are seen as poor people that can't afford cars.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago

Not in Seattle. We actually have public transit.

[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

we have his name. justice is one hero away.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

call it whatever you want just as long as it ends in cop brains splattered on the pavement.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hope that fantasy makes you feel good.

I’d prefer to fantasize that we’ll invest in the parts of society that uplift people, so we don’t need police. Then those people can find a more meaningful occupation, and help build a better world. That, to me, would be justice.

[–] Masterblaster@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

me too, but the assholes need to be reminded that there are consequences for inhumane behavior.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

So will the SPD speak to the valuation differential between the lives of human beings and lives of cops ?

I'd be interested in hearing a breakdown of which citizens have value and how according to the SPD.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm trans and living in Seattle so I know my value to them is somewhere between "nothing" and "the cost of a bullet or tazer shot"

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I'm okay with keeping the death penalty for some special cases, it turns out