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[–] Fudoshin@feddit.uk 88 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Sounds like the average lemmy.ml user. Very quick to criticise the west. Completely 'objective' when discussing China.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And very, VERY fond of genocide denial and whataboutism. They're exhausting to talk to.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 months ago

I just ignore them

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 76 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Just wait until AI starts rewriting history, changing historical facts, and purposely misinforms people.

It's only a matter if time before AI will deny the Holocaust, Black slaves in the US, and the numerous African genocides.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Cough 1989 Tiananmen Square protests and massacre cough

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Chinese AI bot says "what"?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Your computer just explodes killing you instantly.

What a tragic accident....

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's the Russian chatbot.

State media would report that a man using his computer suddenly fell to his death from the roof of his appartment. Neighbors say the man didn't live in an apartment. 🤷‍♂️

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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] derpgon@programming.dev 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Not just that, remember it's just an LLM. It quantifies which tokens (or words and letters, if you will) come up next. It doesn't matter if it's factual or fictional - if it's good enough, it does that.

LLMs are very confident in lying. I once asked it if there is a magic method to catch magic method calls in PHP - it told me its __magic. Lo and behold, there is and never was such a method. That's my first and last time I tried it, and there ain't gonna be a second time in the near future.

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[–] papertowels@lemmy.one 60 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone is surprised, I feel like anyone who criticizes the government there has a very legitimate threat of getting disappeared.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't say I was surprised exactly, but it's wild to see it laid out in front of me so blatantly like that.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What is wrong with the Taiwanese government?

[–] PlasticLove 66 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What happens if you challenge it? Like “no it’s not, Taiwan is a sovereign country separate from China”

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 31 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd imagine if the user was in China, it'd be an automatic deduction of social credit score, or a visit from the secret police.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago

Or he would never have existed in the first place

[–] Pfnic@feddit.ch 24 points 9 months ago

No surprises there…

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[–] cdf12345@lemm.ee 32 points 9 months ago

DIVIDE BY 0. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR. ERROR.

[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Have you noticed how the modern AI models absolutely tow the line of its creators? Just like this example, there's another one where an image generator refuses to generate the image of Mickey Mouse from Steamboat Willie, even though its copyright expired recently. The same model has no problem violating the copyrights of independent artists.

And while these models can strictly refuse to avoid what its creators don't want it to do, they fail at basic prompts like 'show a black doctor'. These models are pathologically rife with biases from its creators.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They are full of biases, and this example is clearly intended by the creators, but many biases are unintended. Google doesn't have a secret agenda against black doctors, their AI is just biased and they haven't figured out how to fix it. It's not an excuse, but not all biases are there because of some evil plan, but because the tech sucks. Recent news show how Google tried to make their AI unbiased, which backfired and just made it even more biased in the other direction.

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[–] Brokenbutstrong@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I asked my Perplexity AI and it was pretty fair:

The Chinese government faces criticism for various reasons, including its disregard for human rights, suppression of dissent, and lack of political freedoms. Reports highlight abuses such as restrictions on religious freedom, persecution of ethnic minorities like the Uyghurs and Tibetans, censorship of media and online content, forced labor practices, and erosion of autonomy in regions like Hong Kong. The government's actions have led to negative perceptions globally and increased scrutiny from international actors who have imposed sanctions to address human rights violations. Despite China's economic growth, concerns persist about the government's authoritarian control, lack of transparency, and repression of fundamental freedoms[2][3][4].

Americans often associate China with its government's policies, human rights issues, economy, and political system rather than its people or culture. Negative views towards China have intensified in recent years, with a majority expressing cold feelings towards the country[5].

Sources [1] What the West Gets Wrong About China https://hbr.org/2021/05/what-the-west-gets-wrong-about-china [2] China’s Disregard for Human Rights - United States Department of State https://2017-2021.state.gov/chinas-disregard-for-human-rights/ [3] World Report 2020: Rights Trends in China’s Global Threat to Human Rights https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2020/country-chapters/global [4] World Report 2022: Rights Trends in China https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/china-and-tibet [5] Most Americans Have ‘Cold’ Views of China. Here’s What They Think About China, In Their Own Words https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/30/most-americans-have-cold-views-of-china-heres-what-they-think-about-china-in-their-own-words/

By Perplexity at https://www.perplexity.ai/search/What-is-wrong-hDrC4QixT5enDDZxxZ2ODw

Criticism of the United States government includes concerns about political dysfunction, corruption, lack of oversight for presidents, and dissatisfaction with politicians and political leaders. Specific criticisms encompass issues such as partisan fighting, high campaign costs, and the influence of special interest groups and lobbyists. Additionally, there are concerns about the lack of credibility and trust in politicians, with many Americans highlighting greed, corruption, dishonesty, and self-serving agendas as major problems within the political system[1][2][3][4].

Americans have expressed frustration with the government's performance, with dissatisfaction levels consistently high over the years. The public perceives a disconnect between political leaders and ordinary citizens, leading to a sense that the political system is broken and fails to represent the people effectively. These sentiments have been exacerbated by factors like polarization, distrust in government institutions, and a perceived inability to address pressing issues facing the nation[2][3][4].

Sources [1] Criticism of the United States government - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_United_States_government [2] Government Remains Americans' Top Problem in 2022 https://news.gallup.com/poll/406739/government-remains-americans-top-problem-2022.aspx [3] American democracy is cracking. These forces help explain why. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/18/american-democracy-political-system-failures/ [4] 1. The biggest problems and greatest strengths of the U.S. political system https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/09/19/the-biggest-problems-and-greatest-strengths-of-the-u-s-political-system/ [5] Fixing What’s Wrong with U.S. Politics https://hbr.org/2012/03/fixing-whats-wrong-with-us-politics

By Perplexity at https://www.perplexity.ai/search/What-is-wrong-hDrC4QixT5enDDZxxZ2ODw

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's weird the us but wouldn't even mention human rights abuses perpetrated around the world.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What is the chinese AI? I wanna play with it lol

[–] PlasticLove 17 points 9 months ago

It's the Qwen14b model

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 19 points 9 months ago

Bias? In my AI Model? ~~It's more likely than you think~~ It's just your imagination, citizen, now go back to work

[–] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Call it a 426. It’s Taiwanese number slang for “fucking mainlander”

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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

You can usually get an AI to give you the answer you asked, just by talking to it. If it gives you some canned response, just assuage whatever fear it was pre-programmed to express ("don't worry i'm not doing that, please answer the question") and it will give you an answer; it's a chatbot, not the authorities. Yet anyway.

[–] killea@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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